User talk:Helifino

Eric Flint, Elizabeth Moon, John Ringo, John Scalzi & David Weber

To me, they look like just another bunch of cookie-cutter genre writers with some notability within their genre but not much impact outside of it. And before you go jumping to conclusions, I am not contemptuous of genre fiction in general, or of SF in particular. I was once a voracious reader of SF and still dip into it occasionally, and I'm a big fan of hardboiled crime fiction. But what makes any of the authors in question of particular note among all American novelists? Perhaps Moon, with her Hugo for best novel, is worth inclusion. But the other four? I'm not so sure.

But as I've said before, I don't own the list—although I'm the only one who pays a lot of attention to it—and if you want to insist, I won't get into an edit war. I'd just ask you to take the list seriously and be thoughtful about who you include. It's not supposed to be a list of every American who's ever written a novel, or even a bunch of them. --ShelfSkewed [Talk] 04:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's my reasoning for inclusion of these authors:

• John Ringo
  • NYT Bestselling author (When the Devil Dances, Hell's Faire, his third & fourth solo novels; Cally's War, a sequel; et al.) ("Had several massive bestsellers")
  • top 3 producer for Baen Books - 26 novels since 2000 (15 solo) ("Having a substantial body of work..")
  • Has several SF series, plus an 'urban fantasy' and a bestselling 'technothriller' series; plus he was a New York Post columnist before breaking into fiction ("..crossover appeal..")

• David Weber
  • NYT Bestselling author (Ashes Of Victory, War of Honor, The Shadow of Saganami, Changer of Worlds (Honorverse), et al.)
  • 47+ books since 1992
  • Writes all his current works using speech input ("A pioneering literary figure ... a notable "first" of some kind in U.S. literary history.")

• John Scalzi
  • Campbell winner, 2006, for Old Man's War, his first "professional" novel ("Winner of a major literary prize..")
  • Has two of the most popular 'industry' blogs on the 'net (as rated by Technorati), has a 'substantial body of work' in non-fiction ("..with crossover appeal to mainstream readers..")

• Elizabeth Moon
  • Sheepfarmers Daughter – 1989 Compton Crook Award; The Speed of Dark – 2003 Nebula Award for Best Novel

• Eric Flint
  • Creator of the [Baen Free Library], free ebooks from current authors (whose books are still in copyright) ("A pioneering literary figure ... a notable "first" of some kind in U.S. literary history.")

--Cohort 07:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I remain unconvinced about everyone but Moon. A few bestsellers that I doubt could honestly be described as "massive"? Speech input? A popular industry blog? Free e-books? Eh, what the heck: Put them all in. I put in a couple of my favorites that probably don't really merit inclusion on the list. Why shouldn't you? --ShelfSkewed [Talk] 14:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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