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I have tried to add some factual information on the article on Pope Pius XIII. It was removed as vandalism. Why? One has only to go to the true Catholic Church's prior website truecatholic.us and email Pius XIII to verify what I wrote. I also attempted to post this prior website (truecatholic.us) to the source section of the article and had that rejected.

What prompted me to edit this article is because I sent an email to the truecatholic.us email address, and Pius XIII sent me a return email. His email included attachments (his periodic newsletters) on the use of the term "mother of God". He thinks the Hail Mary should say "Holy Mary, Mother of God the Son", because he feels the term "God" always means the Trinity. He told me two of his supporters left his group within the last several months and that this is why the website truecatholic.org no longer works: because these two men maintained the website and shut it down when they left the "true Catholic Church".

It is probable that he lost these two followers, and probably will soon lose more of his remaining followers, over this rigid logic regarding traditional trinitarian terminology. The word "God" to most Christian denominations (including the Roman Catholic Church) can mean either the Trinity, or any One or Two of the Three Persons in the Trinity, or it can simply mean "God" as absolute in Infinity without any One or more of the Three persons specified. Traditional catholics are bound to be offended when they are told they must amend the Hail Mary to say "Holy Mary, Mother of God the Son" Such a rigid distinction between the Three Persons of the Godhead may suggest that there might be three gods, a doctrine to which no known Christian denomination subscribes.

Jhesscpa (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Church of the East[edit]

I wrote much of the article on the Ancient Church of the East. You have removed it, no doubt to cater to some foolish "theologian" who did not like the truth about the wicked thing that was done to Nestorius at the council of Ephesus in 431 AD. Jesus Christ is two personal natures, personally united. What is the consequence of rejecting this truth: either making Mary to be the human personality in the redemption (co-redemptrix): (what the Roman and non-Assyrian churches of the East did), or ignoring her altogether with no clear stand on who was right in 431; Nestorius, or his opponent Cyril of Alexandria, as do the Protestants and Evangelicals.

And what was the effect of this: within 200 years God had avenged Himself on the largely fallen ancient Church (with the innocent suffering with the guilty) by allowing the rise of Islam. Isaiah 61:2 Mohammed himself is said to have become disgusted with the three major Christian groups of his time (Nestorian-Assyrian, Coptic-Miaphysite, and Greek-Roman-Chalcedonian) and the various small Christian offshoots (such as the Mandeans who follow John the Baptist but not Jesus), which is why he sought God as he did. He believed that the Christians had all failed in their presentation of God to the world of his time, and that God had sent him to set things right. Now, 1600 years later, Islam threatens the entire western world: both believer and secularist. That is why this ancient argument is relevant today and why you people are unfair in not allowing simple historical facts to be posted for public consumption.

Neutrality is never totally possible when presenting historical or religious facts, since opposing views write different historical accounts slanted for their own purposes. Consider how the Founding Fathers are portrayed as saints by virtually all American historians. Read a British history of the same time period, and you will get quite a different view. Where is the partiality in that? The Encyclopedia Americana versus the Encyclopedia Britannica: neither reference system is neutral when discussing the American Revolution.

Above all, you people at Wikipedia are hypocrites. You want input from readers who have knowledge of the subject matter and have something to contribute. Yet you tell me that I am vandalizing. That is pure nonsense. I know as much as any westerner about the Assyrian Church and Ancient Church of the East. I do not input anything that is not factual and certainly did not use offensive language or put someone else down, particularly any living person.

I certainly will never contribute to your venture financially; not until you clean up your system to distinguish between bad input and good input. At present, your computers are not programmed well enough to do that.


Jhesscpa (talk) 09:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Jhesscpa[reply]