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[edit] Quick Translation!
Hello Nihonjoe!
If it isn't too much trouble, could you translate a small bit from the cover of this manga volume? Specifically, this portion. I am trying to find out whether Ryukishi07 is being credited as the author or just for the original concept. Also, is the aforementioned book the same as this volume, or are they different? Thank you, WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 23:29, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- As Joe seems busy, I'll answer. The original ja word on the cover is 原作. See these dic. pages. [1] and [2]. The first volume has a kanji 下 and it means the second volume. [3] The second one has 上 and it means the first volume. [4] Oda Mari (talk) 06:52, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 21:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks for helping him out, Mari. I appreciate it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Reassessment of Battle of Imizu
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Hi! I was hoping you'd be willing to take a look at the battle of Imizu, to reassess it. It's been (slowly) worked on for the past 4 years, and I'm hoping it has been developed to a B class article. But I'd also like your feedback on how it looks overall (formatting/logical progression/etc) at your leisure. Thanks! --BradTraylor (talk) 23:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm having trouble verifying any of the information in the article. This battle, based on the information in the article, seems like it should be mentioned in other places as it appears to be an important battle, yet I can't find any reference to the battle in the Japanese articles of either of the two main belligerents. In fact, the only mention of "射水の戦い" anywhere on the internet is in reference to this Wikipedia article (and the various mirrors of it). Looking up the books listed in the article, 戦国の合戦全録, 戦国時代の英雄, and 千葉記 don't seem to exist as books I can find anywhere. Can you provide more information regarding these sources? ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:39, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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- Frankly in the big picture, this battle only had local significance and no national significance that I can discern. That being said, I'll contact a professor in Japan that I have corresponded with while I was working on my degree for additional insights on the relevance, if any, on national events. Hopefully he can shed some light on why it is so obscure. As for the Chiba-ki, I can't comment on the veracity of that source, as I wasn't the one who included that information. I did recently create an article for Chiba Kazusa based on what was written on the battle page assuming that using a wikipedia page as a source was acceptable, my apologies if I went about this the wrong way BradTraylor (talk) 01:43, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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- I've looked through what I have, and I don't seem to see any reference to a Chiba-ki. But really that doesn't mean much, Japan has hundreds or more of ~ki and ~mondo and ~keizu and ~kan and ~fudoki and on and on ad nauseum. Not to mention it looks like it was printed in the late 19th century(?), so who knows. My thesis was a case study on the effect of warfare in Japan on agricultural development with a focus on the Jinbo clan, basically an analysis of terraced farming and land reclamation rather than warfare, but the battle of Imizu was one that I came across while working on my thesis, so I kept some of my notes. As for the sources that I actually cited, there is a good chance they are out of print. But for what it's worth, according to my notes here, it appears that the original source was "Toyama-Ken Shiyo" (富山県史要) printed 3rd month 23rd day of Taisho 13 (1925?) in Osaka. --BradTraylor (talk) 04:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any source on the battle so far. It seems there was no notable battle between Jinbo and Shiina in 1554. ja:越中の戦国時代 is the article about Etchu feuds and battles in Sengoku, but no mention about a battle in 1544. The linked article Matsutake Kiyotaro is also dubious as there was no results for the search. Chiba Kazusa is also dubious. I couldn't find anything on "戦国の合戦全録" and "千葉記" either. The battle article and its related articles could be hoax and the articles only with "戦国の合戦全録" and "千葉記 as references should be deleted. Oda Mari (talk) 06:43, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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- I didn't check Amazon at all. I checked here. National Diet Library collects copies of all publications published in Japan. See [5] and [6]. The NDL does not have "戦国の合戦全録", " 戦国時代の英雄", and "千葉記". They do not have "Etchū Ranki" either, the book mentioned in the battle article. It means there is no such books published in Japan. Please provide ISBN and authors' name in ja of the books, if you insist they are published in Japan. Though the NDL does not have "富山県史要", the book is found at here. The reason the NDL does not have the book is the book was published before 1948. The name Chiba Kazusa and the family name Matstake made me lol. Didn't you think they were funny and impossible? Of course, the search results of them were zero. If Chiba Kazusa was a man from Chiba clan, he should have had "胤" in his name. [7] 射水の七本槍 hit only the article here. Though it's a personal site, this page helps to know Jimbo, but there is no mention about the battle on the page. I assume good faith in you. Sorry, but even if the battle and the related articles are not hoaxes, as Joe pointed out above, they are non notable and should be speedy deleted. Oda Mari (talk) 09:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Oda Mari -I can't help but notice you calling my contribution "hoaxes" every chance you've had - hardly an assumption of good faith on your part. I can understand your point that you haven't been able to locate my source, that's understandable. But you did locate the Toyama Ken Shiyo, which is not only a valid source, but at least as of 2008 was in the University of Hawaii library, and probably still is. You have already located this as an actual, concrete source. Secondly, I think a few points need to be made - although you claim that the issue is that you couldn't locate a source (although you did locate the Toyama Ken Shiyo), your focus seems to be on the content - this is despite the fact that it is obvious that you have little to no background in advanced academic research on 16th century Japanese history and primary source materials. This isn't meant to be an insult. This is why I have come to this conclusion:
- Chiba Kazusa - As I have said already, some other wikipedian contributed this info, but you "lol"'d at the name. However, it is obvious that "Kazusa" is "Kazusa no suke", which in many contemporary correspondences and writings is a common contraction. The Shinchokoki is full of examples of this. Hardly anyone is mentioned by their personal names. Furthermore, Toyotomi Hideyoshi was known as "Hashiba Chikuzen" in correspondence for a time. Either Chiba's real name is not known, or more likely, he is just referred to in the primary text as Chiba Kazusa. I don't see what the lol is all about.
- Chiba-ki - yet another source someone else contributed, however, I notice that the publication date is 1893, well before 1948.
- Also, you may or may not know that in Japanese language secondary sources, they often cite primary sources without any sort of citation - case in point Etchu Heiran-ki - that was written probably in the early Edo period, well before 1948. It was simply noted in the secondary source I was reading. You see that a lot in Japanese history books, which are notorious for not citing sources beyond the occasional reference to a primary source written 300 years before.
Based on this, I would prefer that someone with more experience in Japanese history research weigh in on the content, I would prefer that you stick to disputing sources, and someone more familiar with the particulars of Japanese history research weigh in.
As for the kanji for Matsutake, that's my fault, I'm embarrassed to admit that I had the kanji wrong, the correct kanji is 松竹, and has been corrected. An honest mistake. I have already admitted that my notes are a combination of printed and handwritten pages from about 5 years ago, so there is a chance that I mis-transcribed something as well. After all, my contributions to wikipedia, as I mentioned, came from research corollary to my master's thesis, and not included in it. This is just information that I had found interesting and noted. So the blame for not being clear is mine alone - but to claim it a hoax is a bit much, considering at least two other people have contributed to the article in the past 4 years- because you haven't heard of something, and because you can't find note about it on the internet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Obscure, yes. Possibly just mentioned in one or two clan documents. But as I have seen many times on wikipedia, this sort of thing is considered notable based on the fact that it was recorded for posterity. And again, I find it ironic that you rabidly lobby to delete my contributions when there are still hundreds of articles related to Japan with no sources whatsoever, even after I give you a concrete source, the Toyama Ken Shiyo. That's all I've got, still waiting for an email back from Japan, but I don't know how long it will take the professor to get back to me, so this is about all I have. My original intent was to have the article evaluated so that I could get feedback on how to make it better, instead, you have deleted it. Congratulations. Wikipedia is probably not the place for me. Thank you. --BradTraylor (talk) 03:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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- As for other articles not having sources, yes, that is an issue, and one WPJ is working to correct. However, there are only so many of us, and there are currently over 39,000 articles which are tagged as being part of the project. There are likely other articles which haven't even been tagged yet. That other articles exist without any sources is not a valid argument to use to keep another one without sources. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- As WP:HOAX says, "Hoaxes are generally not speedy deletion candidates. It is usually not enough for just one or two editors to investigate a hoax, as there have been cases in the past where something has been thought to have been a hoax by several editors, but has turned out to be true, and merely obscure. Suspected hoaxes should be investigated thoroughly, and only in extreme cases of blatant and obvious hoaxes should articles be tagged for speedy deletion as {{db-hoax}}." I'm not going to comment on whether I think this is a hoax or not (I know nothing of the Japanese language and almost nothing of Japanese history, unlike Nihonjoe and Oda Mari), but I can confidently say that these articles are not at the blatant-and-obvious level that WP:HOAX makes eligible for db-hoax treatment. Nyttend (talk) 04:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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[edit] Username change question
Hi, you recently moved User:Mika-photography to User:MikaV. This user has emailed me and asked why he can't log in as MikaV, but must still log in as his old username. Would you please look into this and reply at User talk:MikaV#Login problems? Thanks. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Y Done. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Hallo, yes i can log in now with the username MikaV. but when i try to upload files i am directed to the german wikipedia site and are asked to log in. but there i can not log in as MikaV ?! or i received the message that my account is still blocked by Amatulic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MikaV&action=submit
then i tried again to log in with MikaV and got this: "Login error There is no user by the name "MikaV". Usernames are case sensitive. Check your spelling, or create a new account."
sorry about the trouble. i just want to give the world some nice pictures.
best regards,
mika — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikaV (talk • contribs) 09:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Change Username
I want to change my username....please help me and tell me the complete procedure. Cool from PAKISTAN Let's talk about it! 10:29, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Please read the notice you saw directly above the edit box you used to type in your message above. It answers your question very clearly and also provides a link to the correct page (here). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:32, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Talkback
「ディノ奴千？！」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
Quite some time ago, you moved DENSO to Denso.
I think this is not actually correct. The actual name of the company is DENSO, and it is never spelled Denso officially anywhere (that I can find).
For reference, the page about UNESCO (referred to in MOS) is called UNESCO.
I know that UNESCO is an acronym, wheras (as far as I know) DENSO is not. However, I think the company should be capitalised correctly, as per eBay as an example from the MOS).
Cheers,
Martin GreenAsJade (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC).
- You already answered your own question: DENSO is not an acronym. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:35, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Announcing the debut of the »Alps Monogatari -- Watashi no Annette« episode synopsis page
NihonJoe:
Many salutations! Today I decided to browse around a lesser-known local grocery store to see if I can get more bang for the buck when the time comes for me to buy some groceries -- at which point I hopefully will have a means to haul some perishable stuff home on the bus. I am writing to invite you to the release of my latest brainchild into the Wikipedia ether -- an episode synopsis page for »Alps Monogatari -- Watashi no Annette«. I was going to wait until I had summarized up to Annette #12 before I did this; still, it was quite a struggle to get the first eight episodes summarized -- especially since I took on a bit too much. I have exerted a significant effort to adhere the lessons from my previous mistakes so I should escape being accused of committing an act of war against Wikipedia, false?
Dairi no Kenkyo (talk) 03:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Here is the URL: List_of_»Alps_Monogatari_--_Watashi_no_Annette«_Episodes. Try not to be too rough, please; I worked hard on this.
Dairi no Kenkyo (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Infobox director. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Infobox director redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Magioladitis (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] The Legal History of Chinese Americans
Hi. I'm removing The Legal History of Chinese Americans from the GOCE requests page because, after the recent history of the article, we're not sure what stage it's at right now. We'd be glad to help if and when the right time comes. I've left a note on the article talk page too. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 12:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Honorverse map
Hi,
I was recently looking for reference to my Honorverse compilation map that Piotr placed on Wikipedia and I couldn't find it. So I started digging and found the talk page on it. I tried to leave a message there but wikipedia defeated my abilities, so I'm writing directly to you, as one of the more active people in that talk. As I was reading the talk and the file information on COmmons I found a few mistakes / mosconceptions.
1. On commons it's stated that my Honorverse collection of maps is on harrington.suewebik.net/svet/mapy.shtml which isn't true, and never was. Since April 2009 I'm writing my own page on the honorverse honorverseglossary.wikispaces.com, before that I regularly posted my maps on Baen's Bar and later of davidweber.net.
2. On my wiki in the maps section there is a more current map of the honorverse. In a sussection you can also see the whole process that lead to its making. As stated on my site nothing is invented by me, everything is a compilation of official maps from the books, or maps Weber posted himself on Baen's Bar or dawidweber.net.
3. As to the last comment in the talk, that David was supposed to draw a rough sketh on a napkin and do it in my presence. That's rubbish. David sent his original sketch to Baen's Bar in 2004 and the maps are still to be found on thefifthimperium.com site that David's friend Joe Buckley is managing. There in the infodump section he archives all David posts on varois forums around the net, including the maps in question.
I don't know if anythig of this can help You in anyway clear the issue of the map. If needed I can answer any followup questions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawa 13 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Feedback requested
This might intrest you: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#AnimeCons.com AnimeCons.com is being questioned as a reliable source and it is used in alot of articles. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Possible vandalism - request by OTRS
Hi, Could you have a look at https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketSearch&Subaction=Search&TicketNumber=2012040310018517 - the person thinks thinks that the translated text in The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife is vandalised. Ronhjones (Talk) 20:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for amending the text. Ronhjones (Talk) 20:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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[edit] Sockpuppets etc
I've been offline for about two weeks - PLEASE tell me what the heck is going on here. Oda Mari has gone off the deep end - This is the only account I've ever used. Can you also explain to me how an article on my own user page was deleted? The battle of imizu page was on my user page, it was not a "regular" wikipedia page. Was Oda Mari so utterly ashamed of how she acted on the talk page for that non-public page that she felt she had to have it deleted? The conversation on the talk page needs to be kept as part of the record. As an admin, I believe (but don't know for sure) that you have access to it, please move it somewhere where it can be accessed. The only reason she targeted it is because I embarrassed her on it. --BradTraylor (talk) 05:50, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- The page was deleted according to the guidelines found at WP:MFD. You can view the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BradTraylor/Battle of Imizu. I can't speak for her motives or reasoning, but I assume the nomination statement explains that. You will have to ask her if you have additional questions. If you believe the page (including the talk page) was deleted in error, you are welcome to open a discussion at WP:DRV. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Also, Oda Mari is not an admin (this is response to your comment here). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Just a note: BradTraylor had stated he was retiring on his user page, but did it by means of a very direct personal attack on Oda Mari. I've removed the PA, and left a retired banner in its place. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
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- That's fine. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Please change my username
I´m Chico del Pantano and I am sure of the change of my username, this change makes me happy, if you let me change my username of Chico del Pantano to -Phoenix! I say thanks to you ever, please do it. Chico del Pantano(-Phoenix! Just do it! 00:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)(
- Please pay attention to the notice at the top of the edit page. For your convenience, I've posted the relevant part here: "This is not the place to request a name change, discuss your pending username change, or to argue with me about your username change request. Please take your request, discussion, and/or arguments to WP:CHUS." Thank you for following directions in order to keep discussions together. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
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[edit] Category:Visitor attractions in Japan by location
Category:Visitor attractions in Japan by location, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool
Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.
For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia Stories Project
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Kauffner is being adamant (again) that the katakana form of her stage name is misleading in that it is implying that her name is primarily written with katakana. I've left him a strongly worded message stating that consensus is against him, and has been against him since November, but he seems to be ignoring this.—Ryulong (竜龙) 02:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Instead of focusing on Talk:Misia, Kauffner has brought his faulty arguments to Talk:Yui (singer) because 3 days ago DAJF edited the article to remove "ユイ" from the lead in an edit that changed all of the instances of "YUI" to "Yui" within the article.—Ryulong (竜龙) 08:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
It appears that the discussion is not getting any input other than from its opponents. And frankly I am digging myself a hole.—Ryulong (竜龙) 08:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I have returned the film article to its original location, Touch (film). This is the only film by this title with an article, so no further disambiguation is required at this time. In any case, moving the film to a new title without changing the redirect is, as practical matter, the same as not moving at all. Regards,--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm going to be moving it back as there are other films with articles, but I was busy fixing all the links to the article so they would point to the new location (Touch (1997 film). Please don't jump the gun again, and perhaps give me a chance to do that. I figured it was more important to fix all the links to the film article first. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Give you the chance to do what? To fix what? Nothing was broken. In general, all the naming guidelines discourage pre-emptive disambiguation from articles that don't yet exist. The existing article should be located at the simplest available name. Until another film called Touch has an article, disambiguation for such a film or films can, and typically is, handled by dab page listings and hatnotes. If you intend to create an article for another film called Touch, create it first and then move the existing article and fix the links.--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- You didn't bother letting me finish before you jumped in. I've created the disambiguation page now. I know very well how things work around here, so please stop treating me like some wet-behind-the-ears newb. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Expand TFD
In light of the fact that the TFD nomination itself contained many highly misleading and inaccurate statements along with a very inaccurate timeline of events, which led to further problematic arguments in the TFD, I ask that you restore this page as it was. One major point, User:Rich Farmbrough did not restore the template in February 2011 as a "test case" for Wikipedia:Soft deletion (a failed proposal from 2007) as the nom stated, and the code in the template page had less to do with historical use and more to do with allowing old page revisions to continue to work. Now that the template page has been turned into a dab page (which the documentation subpage previously took care of), we now have an even much larger mess...
The actual history of {{Expand}} is partially documented along with {{Deleted template}} in links from this TFD which you closed back in February 2012, but these links should help clarify that the sequence of events were far different from what the nom claimed in this most recent TFD:
In light of this, while I (or someone else) could obviously make a very strong case for an overturn at DRV, I think it would be better for someone less involved (not me) to explain to the nom that his arguments were inaccurate and did not reflect the actual events that took place. At the very least, for now, the talk page should be restored and the subpages User:TenPoundHammer continued to obsess over either restored or moved back to my userspace. --Tothwolf (talk) 10:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- [I'm familiar with this whole mess partially due to some of the extensive work I did on {{Deleted template}} [8] when code design issues surfaced after the VPP discussion and one of the MFDs TenPoundHammer initiated. --Tothwolf (talk) 10:30, 9 May 2012 (UTC)]
Hi Joe. I would like to invite you and Wikipedia:Meetup/Utah to again join the Great American Wiknic this June :) Also, please confirm any preliminary details at Wikipedia:Wiknic#2012 Wiknic.--Pharos (talk) 17:47, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I have a couple of questions about your close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Category:WikiProject Natural phenols and polyphenols articles. You have recommended to take the discussion to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy, but as far as I can tell, that page doesn't seem to apply. That page seems to be for either unpopulated categories or for categories to be renamed or merged which isn't that case for this set of categories for deletion. Also, the MFD had several templates listed, but they shouldn't go to WP:CFDS either. Should the templates be re-nominated at MFD or somewhere else? Or if these deletions are all "non controversial", as you call them, couldn't you just speedy delete all of them? ChemNerd (talk) 19:46, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- It would be best to task a bot with all the replacements for the templates and categories, then request speedy deletion for the categories and simply redirect the templates. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 07:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've taken your suggestion, and made a request here: Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Removal_of_deprecated_template. ChemNerd (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article
List of free fan conventions is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to
Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be
deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of free fan conventions until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. I am adding this notice as you appear to have had the most edits to the page. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:48, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Just to let you know: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive235#Viriditas. His accusations are to much for my sense of humour Night of the Big Wind talk 22:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering why you deleted this page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- The log explains it very clearly. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- No it doesn't, please check again. The discussion you linked to relates to a different template ... unless I'm missing something. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm...it looks like it may have been deleted in error. Not sure why. Sorry about that, and thanks for catching it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Could this be the result of some script which is attempting to find all subpages of a template and its talkpage, and mistakenly thinking that Template talk:Expand section/Archive 1 is a subpage of Template talk:Expand because it begins with the same characters? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure, as I don't use any scripts when I'm deleting pages. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
[edit] GameTZ Help?
Someone posted a name, address, and phone number of someone (who I believe is a GameTZ member) on GameTZ.com. One of the vandalbots reverted it right away, but the info is still visible in the older version of course. Is there a way to suppress that so that the personal info is no longer visible? I suspect the person would not appreciate having their stuff spewed all over like that. dstumme (talk) 04:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've hidden the text of the edit from public view. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Counter-Vandalism Unit in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on the Counter-Vandalism Unit for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
