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Fairport Convention

I've been working on this intermittently for the last couple of weeks. Tonight, I rewrote the (previous rather POV) introduction and tidied up the headings/sections.

I hope this article can reach Featured Article status. Perhaps it is there already? I am as sure of the facts as one can be but I would be grateful if anyone who knows the subject would check for errors. I also think it needs experienced Wikipedians to check the Wiki links and the format.

I would welcome collaboration. If anyone has any comments, please leave them on my talk page. Thanks! Andy F 02:46, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'd suggest putting the Discography below the list of band members, and putting the current members above the past members. Also, once the page gets too big, move the discography and list of past members to their own pages. --[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 _talk]] 06:19, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, agree - done that. Thanks. Andy F 14:27, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It needs references. Otherwise it could be considered as entirely made up out of thin air. Use the best ones available, and hopefully find if there are any print ones available. It also needs some help for NPOV. For example the first sentence "...is arguably the quintessential British folk-rock band" is POV. Who claims that? Having a source available is very handy to fix that kind of POV. If a fan page claims that then that is POV. If a prominent music critic claims it, then it can be left and cited. - Taxman 15:40, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)

I see what you mean, Taxman. I used the word "arguably" to indicate this was a very widely-held, but essentially unprovable, POV. I think Ritchie Unterberger (the rock biographer) could be a source for this view. I'll check. As to printed sources, there have beeen four books published. Two are good, one is a pamphlet, one is pretty dire. I've not read any of them them for years and they're all out of print now but I will see if I can get details. Thanks. Andy F 02:30, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I've added the Ritchie Unterberger source and un-POV-ed the opening paragraph. Andy F 10:05, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good work, it's certainly an interesting read. But there are further issues before this can make FA status:

1. Too many one sentence paragraphs.
2. Unencyclopedic (sp?) writing: "Things were looking rosy when disaster struck.", "The young musicians nearly decided to call it a day."
3. NPOV issues: "This was arguably Fairport Convention's finest album and it established British folk-rock as a distinct and influential genre." who argues this? we can't put our own POV... we need that POV sourced from somewhere.
4. 1979 - "Aww, mama, can this really be the end?" - is this a reference to something? that's not clear.
   1. Bob Dylan, "Stuck Inside of Mobile".
5. The references section needs a direct reference, even if it duplicates what's in external links. It'll never get through FAC unless this done.

Overall, this article has definite potential but I think it needs a bit of work. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:15, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Fairport released over 20 singles http://www.fcfansite.fsnet.co.uk/ One of them has the longest title ever to appear on a single. Is this worth a mention?