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List of U.S. state mottos[edit]

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I've made a few changes since the last PR, so I want to know what you think of it. My main concern is about my dates. Many have different years for appearing on the seal and when it became an official motto. Currently I have the earliest date in the table and notes for many of them, but I want to get your input on my system, as well as anything else. I'll be happy to review your article in return.

Thanks, Reywas92 ^Talk 00:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I expect much of this comes down to the definition of "adopted". Many of these were mottoes or on seals of colonies before they became states. The edit I just made to change the date of Hawaiʻi's motto was to conform with those. KarlM (talk) 15:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brianboulton comments

A very well-presented and informative list. The only thing I'd say about the dates issue is that where there is any confusion about the adoption date of a motto, this should be noted in the text or by footnote. The date column might be better headed "Date of adoption" rather than just "Date". A few other points:-

- Too long
Article title: the list includes 50 states and five territories, yet the territories are not recognised in the present title. Shouldn't it be "List of U.S. state and territory mottos"?
- Also too long. I'd prefer keeping it simple.
  - You'd prefer to keep it simple, but inaccurate? Brianboulton (talk) 10:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fine.
Similarly, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands are referred to in the lead as though they were states.
- Fixed
Shearer's book is a cited source and should not be listed among External links
- Fixed
The exclamation mark in the translation of Excelsior looks gratuitous
- Fixed
The following reference links were not working: [2], [22], [50]
- 22 (Illinois) is fine. I've fixed 2 and 50.
Ref [5] is in Spanish. There must be English-language sources which cover this information. Shearer's book is the obvious one; can you consult a library copy, since the relevant pages are not part of the online sample of the book?
- It is the official site of Puerto Rico. No, I can't consult a library copy. I added another link.
  - See WP:NONENG. Also, you should be using the best sources, not just the most convenient. Brianboulton (talk) 10:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - I said I've added another reference to it.
Ref [11] has 345 pages. You need to identify these citations by page references.
- Which state is that? It's a one-page PDF for Arkansas.
  - Sorry, its ref [8] (Samoa) that links to 345 pages and for which a page ref should be added. Brianboulton (talk) 10:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Done. Page 57.
Ref [18} does not give a wording for Georgia's state motto, and I am not clear where the wording came from.
- I've added another link to that.

Overall, though, congratulations on what looks like a fine piece of work. Brianboulton (talk) 11:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Reywas92 ^Talk 20:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with this, but assuming that you wish to see it featured, it is worth your doing the little extras I've suggested, to ensure that this is indeed representative of Wikipedia's best work. Brianboulton (talk) 10:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]