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. I'm thinking of taking this article to FAC—I thought it was a little short, but I've noticed some other music articles of similar length or less. Mainly I just want general input and feedback, but I'm also wondering if the external links are appropriate and if the information on release is sufficient. The article doesn't quite fit the normal template for song articles, partly because much of the typical information (sales and charts) doesn't seem to be available for Chinese songs even today, much less in the 1980s.

Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:07, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am doing a copy-edit and will post comments here. --JN 466 22:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence "These factors contributed to the successful reception of "Nothing To My Name" among Chinese youth in the 1980s." is unsourced. Is there a source backing it up? --JN 466 22:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would think the ELs fall foul of WP:ELNEVER and WP:LINKVIO. (Pity that, as I enjoyed the video; but I guess I might have searched youtube anyway if the link had not been there.) --JN 466 23:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It might be worth checking through youtube to see if there is an "official" video up: [1]. (Youtube is okay to link to if the video has been placed there by the copyright holder.) --JN 466 23:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions and the copyedits, they're definitely an improvement. I checked YouTube per your suggestion and I don't see anything "official"-looking, so I'll go ahead and remove the external links. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As for that other sentence, there should be a source or two that would be appropriate to cite there (I think that sentence was pretty much just my impression after reading a bunch of sources). I'll snoop around in them a bit and see what I can find. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okeydoke. Another little thing: The Harvard ref for Zhou 2008 does not jump to the correct book, because the citation template uses author=Zhou Xuelin rather than last=Zhou and first=Xuelin (assuming Zhou and Xuelin correspond to surname and forename respectively). --JN 466 04:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've standardised all the harvards to harvnb so we have a consistent format throughout; they all work correctly now when clicked on, except for Zhou.

The following sentence needs checking: "The song was released as a single that year, and it was included on Cui's 1989 album Rock and Roll on the New Long March (新长征路上的摇滚), the overseas version of which was titled Nothing to My Name." At the moment, this says that the overseas version of the album was called "Nothing to My Name". I think what we mean is that the overseas version of the single was called "Nothing to My Name". --JN 466 05:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch with the Zhou ref. I wrote the |author= parameter that way because with Chinese names I don't like having a comma (since last-first is the natural order anyway) but I guess here it would make sense to do |last= |first= to get the link working.
As for the sentence in the Background section, I couldn't find a ref that says that precisely, so I just reworded it a bit to make it more vanilla.
As for the album title, actually it was the album that had a different title overseas (the overseas release didn't include "Rock and Roll on the New Long March", which was the title track in the mainland). But that's a pretty inconsequential detail, so if it's confusing I can just remove it. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 15:08, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]