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Action of 23 August 1967[edit]

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Nominator(s): Canpark (talk)


I am nominating this article for A-Class review because it recently passed the GA review, and I want to improve it further. The article is about a major air battle between North Vietnamese and USAF fighters, fought in 1967. Canpark (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on sourcing concerns

  • "forcing the bomb-laden aircraft to jettison their loads" versus "forcing the bomb-laden aircraft to jettison their ordnance" - overly close paraphrasing
  • "From summer 1965 to the winter period of 1966–67, the campaign was aimed at degrading North Vietnam’s capability to infiltrate and send men into South Vietnam" versus "from summer 1965 to winter 1966-67, aimed to degrade North Vietnam's capability to infiltrate men and supplies into South Vietnam" - ditto. There are a number of other instances of this throughout, please check thoroughly
  • Article says bombing campaign was ended 21 October, source says 31 October
  • "they ordered the MiG-21 fighters to climb up to 28,000 kilometers" - source says feet
  • "covered by 10/10th cloud, which started at a height of 1,500 feet (460 m) and cleared at 3,000 feet (910 m)" - phrasing is very close to source, but source gives measurements as 1500 and 3000 meters
  • "The VPAF High Command immediately scrambled two flights of four MiG-17 fighters from the VPAF 923rd Fighter Regiment, followed by two MiG-21 fighters from the VPAF 921st Fighter Regiment at 2:51 pm" - not in source, at least not on page cited
  • "which resulted in the deaths of Weapon Systems Officers Captain Ronald N. Sittner (66-0238, 8th TFW) and First Lieutenant Charles Lane (66-00247, 8th TFW).[17] Major Charles R. Tyler, Captain Larry E. Carrigan, Major Robert R. Sawhill and First Lieutenant Gerald L. Gerndt ejected safely from their aircraft, but they were captured alive and became prisoners of war. Major C.B. Demarque and his Weapons System Officer, First Lieutenant J.M. Piet were rescued shortly after they ejected from their malfunctioned aircraft over Thai airspace" - other than Tyler and Sittner, I don't see these names mentioned in the cited source. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment please address these issues before we can go on about it. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 06:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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