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if this page is about polling "in the Canadian federal election, 2008" should we not have a separate graph showing only the polls taken "in the Canadian federal election, 2008"? [[Special:Contributions/198.96.35.219|198.96.35.219]] ([[User talk:198.96.35.219|talk]]) 11:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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This graph was uploaded on 14 Sept 2008 and appears to not incorporate the last three or perhaps four polls. It really needs to be updated daily and also needs a date on it to show clearly the date when it was last updated. If it isn't going to be updated then it will need to be deleted within a day or two as it will be misleading as the numbers change. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt|talk]]) 01:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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: Graph is misleading now. Shows some parties polling 0, which is not correct. If party not polled there shouldn't be a data point at all. I'm deleting. [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 08:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::I think you are right, while the idea of doing a graph is good, these ones need some work to make them accurate before they are re-instated. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt|talk]]) 12:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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* Graphs are back ... but I still find them a bit misleading. Why use lines, when there are multiple samples each day? wouldn't just using symbols look better? [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 21:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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I agree - it took me a few minutes looking at the graph to figure out what it is saying - the vertical lines some days are confusing, but I guess they indicate multiple polls with different results on the same day. I am more concerned that the graph will need updating every day or else it will quickly become out of date. It seems in elections these days we are getting polled to death. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt|talk]]) 22:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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The graphs at [[Opinion polling for the New Zealand general election, 2008]] might be helpful. You'd have to look at the article in edit mode because the graphs are commented out. Alternatively, there was a discussion at that article about the graphs, and at least one of those editors knows how it was made. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 23:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC) |
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[[:Image:Pge20080918.jpg|This new graph]] is very confusing. I don't understand it at all. Could someone please make a more understandable graph like [[:Image:CombinedPollsVotes-39Cdnelxn.png|the one for the 2006 elections]]? [[User:Esn|Esn]] ([[User talk:Esn|talk]]) 00:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hear hear! |
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Two opinion polls published at the same day, one putting the liberal support at 31% and another putting it at 23%. If that's correct, the only thing it tells us is not to trust the polls. [[User:JdeJ|JdeJ]] ([[User talk:JdeJ|talk]]) 12:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yeah I have been watching those - if you check back and see Nanos vs EKOS they are always far apart on the Liberal numbers, as well as several other party numbers, too. These days, with most people hanging up on pollsters when they call, the polls are a long way from a random sample, as participants are very self-selecting. Retired people have more time for pollsters while working people don't - retired people are more likely to vote conservative in general. Also the questions asked may be quite different between the two firms. The classic example of this is if you ask people if they are in favour of higher taxes to pay for more welfare they will say 'no', whereas if you ask whether the government should provide more financial support to the poorest citizens they will say 'yes'. It is all in how the question is asked. In the end the only poll that counts is on Oct 14th. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt|talk]]) 13:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::They're not all phone polls anymore, though, so that helps. Online polls can prevent this somewhat by surveying a very large sample and then randomly selecting from that a sample that is more representative of the electorate (so as not to give more weight to the sorts of people who are online). Decima's polling is mostly done online (I've been surveyed by them twice in the last 4 months or so). --[[User:Llewdor|Llewdor]] ([[User talk:Llewdor|talk]]) 18:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 17:24, 10 October 2008
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