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== Best wishes ==

I just saw that you were taking a wikibreak and your comment on the Toy Story page. I hope everything turns out all right, and no need to worry about PLC... it'll always be here. Best wishes, --[[User:Jh12|Jh12]] ([[User talk:Jh12|talk]]) 16:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Last of the Summer Wine]] ==

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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thank you for all your hard work on [[Last of the Summer Wine]]. The article would not have made featured status without you! [[User:Redfarmer|Redfarmer]] ([[User talk:Redfarmer|talk]]) 01:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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I saw you're on a WikiBreak and may not see this for a while, but I wanted to express my gratitude for the assistance you provided in copy editing [[Last of the Summer Wine]]. The article is now a featured article, in large part due to your assistance. I am thankful for your help! Cheers! [[User:Redfarmer|Redfarmer]] ([[User talk:Redfarmer|talk]]) 01:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hey there ==

Hi, I just noticed you at [[WP:PRV]] and thought your copyediting standards must by high. Anyways, I was wondering if you could please have a go at [[Sunderland A.F.C.]]. The prose isn't the best, but I've referenced most of it and I could be getting it in at GAC shortly. Thank you. :) [[User:Sunderland06|<font color="red">'''Sunderland06'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Sunderland06|talk]]) 15:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Concerning the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics]] ==

(the RfDs have already run their course)

===RfD nomination of [[:Navy of Sudan]]===
I have nominated {{la|Navy of Sudan}} for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 September 18#Navy of Sudan|the discussion page]]. Thank you. [[User:Ron Ritzman|Ron Ritzman]] ([[User talk:Ron Ritzman|talk]]) 00:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

===RfD nomination of [[:Navy of Belarus]]===
I have nominated {{la|Navy of Belarus}} for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 September 18#Navy of Belarus|the discussion page]]. Thank you. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 16:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

=== Navy redirects ===

We've been "bluelinking" the [[Navy of x]] links in the basic topic country lists, by creating redirects for them, even for the countries that have no navy.

There's been a little controversy over the navy redirects for the landlocked countries (many of which have no navy), as you can see above.  But it's all been worked out.  Each country with no navy gets a redirect to wherever it is reported that it has no navy, or failing that, to its "military of" article.  

The country lists are coming along slowing but surely.  It shouldn't take too much longer before they will be complete enough to move into article space (!), but I can still use all the help I can get.  (hint hint).

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 20:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


We could sure use your help in bluelinking the links in these lists (each link appears in one of the various country basic topic lists):
* [[User:ChiragPatnaik/Navies]]<br>
* [[User:ChiragPatnaik/Armies]]<br>
* [[User:ChiragPatnaik/Air Forces]]

To bluelink them, create a redirect to wherever the information is covered.  If there is no entity, redirect to where that is (or should be) covered.

If you have any questions, please contact me.
[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 20:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== The Scott Mills Show Copyedit ==

Hi.

When you return from your break, could you please take a look at [[The Scott Mills Show]] as it needs a copyedit. 

Thanks, [[User:TwentiethApril1986|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#00009C">TwentiethApril1986</span>]] [[User_talk:TwentiethApril1986|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#FCC200">(talk)</span>]] 13:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
== [[Sri Lankan Tamil people]] ==
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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Hi Anna. Just to say you've done a wonderful job with your edits to the article over the past few months - it flows much more smoothly now, and is a much better article for the work you've done.  [[Raja Raja Chola I|Arulmozhivarman]] smiles in delight.[[User:Taprobanus|Taprobanus]] ([[User talk:Taprobanus|talk]]) 02:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Copyedit help ==

Hi there. I'm wondering if you might have time to help copyediting [[Alien (film)]]. It's currently [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Alien_(film) at FAC] and some concerns about prose have been brought up. I've gone over [[User:Tony1#Featured article candidates and good prose|Tony's guides]] but I feel I am too close to the text (being the primary contributor) to be able to take an objective eye and work out the kinks. [[User:Jappalang|Jappalang]] recommended you as an experienced copyeditor, so I'm hoping you might have time to lend an eye to the article if you're back from your Wikibreak. Thanks very much for your consideration. --[[User:IllaZilla|IllaZilla]] ([[User talk:IllaZilla|talk]]) 23:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== humble request for copyediting help ==

{{User|Wandalstouring}} sent me to you for advice on copyediting, after I mangled the 'Late Roman Army' page. Would you be so kind as to drop me a line when you return from Wikibreak? [[User:Queenmomcat|Queenmomcat]] ([[User talk:Queenmomcat|talk]]) 13:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Help needed: [[Sitakunda Upazila]] ==

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I found you at the now defunct [[Wikipedia:WikiProject League of Copyeditors/Members|League of copyeditors]], and I am really hoping that you can help the article. The article failed [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sitakunda Upazila/archive1|an FAC]] mostly because of irregularities in citation format. But, it also needs a brush up on the copy and a proof reading job. Sorry for dropping in uninvited, but would you consider helping it, please? [[User:Aditya Kabir|<span style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:deeppink;">Aditya</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Aditya Kabir|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aditya Kabir|contribs]])</sup> 00:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Outline of Knowledge / Geography WikiProject Collaboration: Country outlines ==

As you probably remember, last spring we started work on the "Geography and places" branch of [[Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge|Wikipedia's Outline of knowledge]].  (WikiProject Lists of basic topics has been renamed to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge]]). The geography branch is in the form of a set of outline pages including one for every present-day nation or state in the world. That's 247 pages! This has been a huge undertaking, involving dozens of editors using advanced wiki-tools.  

These pages have come a long way, and it won't be long before the whole set is complete enough to be moved to article space into the encyclopedia for the benefit of all.  But there's still a lot of work left, and we could use all the help we can get!

While some editors prefer to work on one country at a time, most of our team members take on a particular entry and complete it across all the pages.  This has come to be our standard type of task.  To facilitate this process, we apply tools such as [[WP:AWB|AutoWikiBrowser]], [[WP:LINKY|Linky]], and [[WP:WikEd|WikEd]], all of which can be used to process a large number of pages in various (direct or indirect) ways.

In case you are interested in what we've been up to, here's a progress report:

Lately, development has been slow but continuous:

On our recruiting initiative, [[User:Penubag/graphics|Penubag]] has done a fantastic job on the images for the awards we'll be using for our project's collaborations and contests.  We now have 3 awards: a medal, a trophy, and a race ribbon.  They all look ''tight''.  The trophy needs a small adjustment, but other than that, all 3 award images are complete and ready to use to create awards with.

Spartaz has warned us of (threatened to take) G4 (speedy delete) action if we run a competition that resembles the previously deleted Awards Center page.  So whatever we do, any contests we run must differ substantially from the methods used there.  

One type of competition I've been exploring is "edit racing".  I'm in the process of working the bugs out of this concept - the first race didn't work as expected - you see, because we only had an award for first place, so the opponent didn't think it worthwhile to continue once it was clear who the winner would be.  And since editors are in different time zones and usually need to start the race at different times, we need to base winning on personal start times - he who completes his assigned edits in the least time (rather than first), wins.  And last but not least is quality control.  What good is racing if the participants' edits are ripe with errors?  So I'll be exploring possibilities such as using a referee (assigned to oversee a particular race), having participants watching each other for errors to knock them back, etc.  I'm not sure yet.

[[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] has been applying his bot expertise to filling in blanks in the country outlines (the population and area entries).  I'm amazed at the number of edits he pumps out each day on a myriad of projects - ours makes up but a small time slice of his activity, and yet he has saved us many hours of manual work.  Perhaps we should look into how he gets so much done.  :)

[[User talk:Zlerman|Zlerman]] has chosen to work on specific outlines, and has taken on [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Topic outline/Drafts/Topic outline of Azerbaijan|Azerbaijan]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Topic outline/Drafts/Topic outline of Tajikistan|Tajikistan]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Topic outline/Drafts/Topic outline of Turkmenistan|Turkmenistan]], and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Topic outline/Drafts/Topic outline of Uzbekistan|Uzbekistan]].  He also has been keen on noticing and reporting design issues pertaining to the whole set of country outlines.  Keep up the good work!

[[User talk:Highfields|Highfields]] is in charge of capitals, adding them to all the outlines.  He is also our first race winner.  Check out the award on his user pages.

In case you didn't know, this project has expanded to include work on any and all sets of pages represented on the country outlines.  Once the set of country outlines go live (in article space), traffic will likely increase for all the links included on them.  The quality and usefulness of those pages will reflect heavily on the country outlines.  The outlines, which are essentially lists of links, are only as good as the links they present, and therefore we've branched out to solve the biggest problems with those as well.  So far, we've taken on:
* The creation of disambiguation pages for country adjectivals ("[[German]]", "[[French]]", "[[Taiwanese]]", etc.)  We're about half done with these. 
* Wikifying the [[CIA World Factbook]] statistics on the "demographics of" country pages.  We've been renaming those sections to provide a key string that AWB can use for targetting (for skipping and filtering).  Once that's done, we'll be able to break the clean-up down into simple AWB search/replace tasks, because we'll be able to target just those pages that include the CIA stuff.
* We've also been renaming the "Cuisine of" articles to their adjectival forms ("Chinese cuisine", "Italian cuisine", etc.), for consistency and because the adjective-based terms are generally the most commonly-used names for those cuisine types.

[[User talk:Blackadam2|Blackadam2]] and [[User talk:Thehelpfulone|Thehelpfulone]] have been helping out with the "demographics of" pages mentioned above.

And we have a couple speed addicts (addicted to wiki-velocity, not drugs)...

Both [[User talk:Robert Skyhawk|Robert Skyhawk]] and [[User talk:Thehelpfulone|Thehelpfulone]] prefer (and excel at) simple AWB search/replaces. Robert hasn't actually joined our team yet, but he has been helping out quite a bit from the sidelines (via the [[WP:AWB/Tasks]] page.  Unfortunately, there has recently been a non-AWB chore that has been holding things up on the AWB front - an edit to all the headings which had to be reverted before too many new edits were made, because any new edits would make the reversion more difficult.  The headings have been restored, so now the way is clear for AWB operations, and there are many search/replace tasks in the queue.  AWB assignments have started again!

There's a similar bottleneck on the "Demographics of" pages (the "keying" mentioned above), but that's almost cleared too.  :)

With my internet access somewhat crippled as of late, I've been finding it difficult to keep up with you guys.  However, I expect to be accessing a Linky-capable workstation on a faster server (I'm on it right now, as you can probably tell from my contributions list for the past couple of days), and so I should really pick up speed.  Feels goooooood.  :)

Recruiting has been a bit slow (but steady), due in part to my crippled access, and because we've been waiting for the images for the awards to be completed.  I expect the team to grow more rapidly as the bottlenecks are removed.

Well that's what's been happenin', and here's what's in the pipeline...

We've got a long list of entries that need to be completed across all the outlines and related page sets.  If you would like to dive in with advanced wiki-tools to process this whole set of pages on one or more tasks, drop me a note!

As for me, I'm about to begin work on a set of lists that corresponds to all the standard links on the country outlines, and these will be presented on the [[Topic outline of countries]] which will be organized exactly like the country outlines.  Aside from being an extremely useful navigation aid, it will allow editors to easily see the state of country coverage on Wikipedia - each list will be one link-set, and each list can be used with our wiki-tools to process the pages listed.  I'll provide you with a link once I get up to speed on this.

In the meantime, keep in touch!

Cheers,

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 00:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Removal from PR Volunteer List ==
Due to your notice that you are on an extended wikibreak, and lack of activity within the past six months, you have been removed from the list of available editors at [[Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers]]. This is done to ensure those seeking volunteers are only directed to active editors who can respond relatively quickly to requests. If you decide to return to editing Wikipedia, feel free to readd your name to this list. -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

== ''Do not read this one'' - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009 ==

While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

[[Talk:Library of Congress Classification:Class B, subclass BS -- The Bible|What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?]]

Do you think they'd like this one at [[WP:DYK]]?
  
(Nope.  They didn't.) &nbsp; &nbsp; :)

=== Libraries ===

For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Wikipedia is small.  (See [http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2009/2009020_7.pdf Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries], and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential.  :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

=== Hunting for outlines ===

I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge.  And of course I turned to Wikipedia to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Wikipedia that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format.  But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:

# [[List of energy topics]] --> [[Outline of energy]] (it converted great)
# [[List of Dewey Decimal classes]] --> [[Outline of Dewey Decimal classes]] (no conversion)
# [[Library of Congress Classification]] --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit.  So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is.  For now.  This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all.  Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

=== Alternate outlines of knowledge ===

...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge!  Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them?  :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Wikipedia's outlines? &nbsp;:)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:)

=== They become alternate top ends to the OOK ===

Yep.

=== What can you find? ===

I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.  

I dare you to take a look around Wikipedia for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to [[WP:WPOOK#The hunt for hidden outlines]].

My trophies are already there.

=== May the hunt begin! ===

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 21:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

== Still active? ==

You are listed on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Volunteers|volunteer list]] of theOutline of knowledge WikiProject, which I'm updating.

Is this something you are still interested in participating in?

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 20:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== A couple questions for you... ==
=== What are the benefits of a [[tree structure]]? ===

The article doesn't say.

I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure).

I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question.  :)

* [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#What are the benefits of a tree structure?]]
* [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics#What are the benefits to humans of using a tree structure?]]
* [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#In the humanities, what are the applications and benefits of a tree structure?]]
* [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#What are the benefits of using tree structures in linguistic communications?]]
* [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#With respect to the fields covered by this refdesk, what are the applications and benefits of a tree structure?]]

=== What are the benefits of outlines, over and above regular articles? ===

What benefits have you noticed?

How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you?

I look forward to your answers on my talk page.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 04:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

== Has the shit hit the fan? - [[WP:WPOOK|WPOOK]] update, 05/25/2009 ==

Maybe...

=== We've started the next phase ===

I was experiencing mental block on the [[User:The Transhumanist/Outline|article draft for "outline"]] and on the [[User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge|outline guideline draft]].  And this was holding the whole project back.  Without these (which are intended to explain the type of lists known as outlines in detail), the danger is higher that a controversy could go the wrong way.

I requested help on them, but there was none forthcoming.  

So I went ahead and started us on the next phase of operations without those 2 pages...

Our AWB'ers and I have placed about '''1600 notices all over Wikipedia.  And the plan is to place several thousand more'''.

This generated only one complaint, but it was a very vocal one, and attracted a few other detractors who seemed unfamiliar with the concept of hierarchical outlines and their benefits.  However, just as many or more editors came to the defense of the OOK, and there was no consensus formed.  But, dab is still trying to rally opposition to outlines at the Village Pump.  See below...

=== Administrator noticeboard incident and Village Pump policy discussion ===

It appears that the banner placed on the [[Talk:Outline of Switzerland|talk page of the Outline of Switzerland]] caught the attention of an editor named [[User:Dbachmann|Dbachmann]] who posted a rather forceful message on my talk page, another on [[WT:WPOOK]], another at [[WP:VPP#"Outlines"|WP:VPP]], and still another at [[WP:AN#Shadow Wikipedia|WP:AN]]!

He went well out of his way to use negative hype to cause a stir.  

It appears that Mr. Bachmann doesn't understand the nature of hierarchical outlines and their applications.  And though he implied that he has never seen an OOK outline before, he was involved with a discussion on these when they were called "lists of basic topics".

His primary argument is that outlines are content forks of articles, and violate [[WP:CFORK]].

But "topic lists", of which outlines are a type, have been around for almost as long as Wikipedia, and fall under the [[WP:LISTS]] and [[WP:STAND]] guidelines.  They aren't intended as forks, as they are lists, bringing the benefits of lists to the corresponding subjects, such as grouping and navigation.

Someone suggested an MfD, but lists are articles, and are within the jurisdiction of AfD.  Only the portal page, which merely lists the outline articles, falls within the scope of the MfD department.

The administrator's noticeboard was considered the wrong venue for the discussion, and the discussion was closed.

But '''[[WP:VPP#"Outlines"|Dab's discussion at the Village Pump]]''' is still active.  Hopefully level heads will prevail there too.

=== Now what? ===

Am I disheartened or deterred?  Hell no.  I say "full steam ahead!"

But we really need to finish the [[user:The Transhumanist|article draft]] and the [[User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge|guideline]].  Otherwise there will continue to be confusion.

Over the next week or two, we'll be posting another 1600 or so notices.  It's a good thing we didn't send out 10,000 of them all at once.  :)

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 23:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: Another related thread has popped up at [[WP:VPR#OoK's expediency]].  ''--TT'' &nbsp; 04:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Why do we have outlines in addition to...? ==
{{main|Wikipedia:Why do we have outlines in addition to...?}}

[[Wikipedia:Outlines]] was growing so large that I split this section off as a separate page.

I look forward to your feedback and improvements. 

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 22:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== Outline update - ''Good news and bad news'' - 06/08/2009 ==

The big push continues.

And it seems to be working!

'''''The good news is''''' that there's growing support for outlines, and there are more editors than ever editing them!

'''''The bad news is''''' that the complainers are disproportionately represented on the project's various talk pages.  While many editors work diligently on the front end, a handful of complainers are trying to tear down the project behind the scenes.  Fortunately, barely enough supporters have been watching those pages that no consensus for moving or merging the outlines has succeeded.  So far...

=== Big problem: ignorance of what outlines are for and their benefits ===

Most of the opposition seems to be unaware of the complete range of what outlines are used for. They just don't ''get it''.

This is why it is important to complete [[User:The Transhumanist/Outline|the outline article draft]]. An article with a comprehensive treatment of outlines would be the perfect place to refer anybody unfamiliar with outlines to.

Opposers also don't seem to understand how outlines differ from some other page type that they prefer.  Some think articles are good enough as an overview, others think portals are more in-depth, still others think categories or navigation boxes are the most efficient and useful way to organize and present topical information.  Some have simply never seen an "Outline of" page before and think they are a new type of page (they've been around under other names since 2001).  

If you run across anyone who doesn't understand the role of outlines on Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Why do we have outlines in addition to...?]] might help reduce their misconceptions or uncertainties about outlines.

=== On the bright side, ''you've got to see this...'' ===

To add the outlines and related support pages to your watchlist (takes less than 30 seconds), cut and paste them from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist]] into your raw watchlist.  For a way to improve the display of your watchlist - by namespace (very useful) - see [[User:Misza13/watchlistSorter.js|Watchlist sorter]], or use the "super fast upgrade" at [[WP:OTS]].

Or go to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes]] (currently without the talk pages) and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu on the sidebar on the left side of your screen.

=== The big push ===

The big push started with about a thousand banners and notices being placed on article talk pages all over Wikipedia.

But it didn't stop there...

=== Welcome our new members... ===

The following Wikipedians have joined the OOK team.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and introduce yourselves.

* [[User talk:Tarheel95|Tarheel95]] - going after the Main Page.
* [[User talk:Vivio Testarossa|Vivio Testarossa]] / [[User_talk:Feinoha|Feinoha]] - here to help.
* [[User talk:Burningview|Burningview]] - made a splash at MfD with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia]] (see the talk page for the MfD link - lots of support there).

=== Enter the mentors! ===

I asked a bunch of mentors at [[WP:ADOPT]] for advice.  Several of them answered on my talk page.  Most of those who replied were happy to help, and posted some very good ideas.  A couple even joined the project.

Here are their ideas, and what is being done about them.  A few of the tasks still need volunteers:

* [[User talk:Strdst grl|Strdst grl]]: Create and place project banners - already {{done}} 
* [[User talk:Strdst grl|Strdst grl]] & [[User_talk:The Earwig|The Earwig]]: put an animated ad for the project in [[WP:BANNER]] - Our graphics specialist [[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]] is looking into it. 
* [[User talk:Strdst grl|Strdst grl]]:  Create a userbox for the project - assigned to [[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]. 
* [[User talk:Garden|Garden]]: Ask to have outlines added to next year's [[WP:Wikicup|WikiCup]] competition - {{done}} (proposal posted)
* [[User talk:Tarheel95|Tarheel95]]: Add a link to [[Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge]] to the [[Main Page]] - [[User talk:Tarheel95|Tarheel95]] is taking on the creation of the proposal
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: Create an [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Outreach|outreach subpage]] to WPOOK - {{done}} (invitation coming soon, see below)
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: (Create a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Newsletter|newsletter archive subpage]]) - {{done}}
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: Add a feed to [[User:AlexNewArtBot|AlexNewArtBot]] to gather links to new outlines and post them on a page.  Then personally invite new creators to the project. - '''''who wants to tackle the feed?''''' 
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: Assign someone to monitor the outlines via watchlist, and invite new outline editors to the project - '''''any volunteers?'''''
* Related: Create an invitation - [[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]] is working on it.
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: Create [[Template:Expand outline]] similar to [[Template:Expand list]], which adds each outline it is posted on to [[:Category:Incomplete outlines]], where editors (who are browsing the categories) can find them and work on them - '''''to be assigned'''''
* [[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]: Add the above template to incomplete outlines - upcoming AWB task
* [[User_talk:The Earwig|The Earwig]]: "Tell your wikifriends about it" - I've told mine, have ''you'' told ''yours''?
* [[User_talk:The Earwig|The Earwig]]: "Collaborate with other WikiProjects" - we've been doing this from the start (each outline is associated with at least one other WikiProject).
* : move the projected outline to a subpage of [[WP:WPOOK]] - {{done}}

=== Linking to outlines has begun ===

To the tops of about 30 subject articles, I placed a test batch of hatnotes leading to the corresponding outlines.  The hatnotes look like this:

: ''For a topical guide to this subject, see [[Outline of X]].''(Hidden: <!- PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE because it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for Wikipedia's overall coverage of this subject. Thank you.-->

The rationale for the hatnotes is that each outline is a topical guide for its subject, and since tables of contents go at the front of a book, a link to each outline should be placed at the front of its subject.

Unfortunately, not all editors agree.  Some of the hatnotes have already disappeared.  :(

=== Some past discussions pertaining to the existence or location of outlines ===
Note that the "Lists of topics" are of two types, including outlines and indexes, so discussions to remove, move, or merge those are usually relevant to the OOK. Also, outlines are a type of list, so discussions that affect lists in general also pertain to outlines.  We've got to be on our toes!

* [[Wikipedia:Move navigational lists to portal namespace]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outline of South Africa]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic visual arts and design topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic mining topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic management topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic industrial topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic computer science topics]]
* [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic Canada topics]]
* [[User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive 21#Question copied from Juliancolton's page]]
* [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia]]
* [[Talk:Switzerland#Orphaned article: Outline of Switzerland]]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Outline_of_science&diff=291368360&oldid=286022635 Outline of science converted to redirect by Dbachmann]
* [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 64#"Outlines"]]
* [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive193#Shadow Wikipedia]]
* [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 47#OoK's expediency]]

I've excluded links to live discussions, out of respect for [[WP:CANVASS]].

=== Table of contents to OOK-related stuff ===
Here's a directory of outline support pages:

* [[Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge]]
* [[Wikipedia:Lists]]
** [[WP:CLN]]
** [[Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists]]
*** [[Wikipedia:Outlines]]
**** [[Wikipedia:Why do we have outlines in addition to...?|Why do we have outlines in addition to...?]]
**** [[Wikipedia:Comparison of Wikipedia's and Britannica's outlines of knowledge|Comparison of Wikipedia's and Britannica's outlines of knowledge]]
* [[WP:WPOOK]]
** [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Projected outline]]

=== Keep up the great work! ===

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 04:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== WPOOK advert banner under development, here's the beta... ==

Thank you to those who suggested [[WP:WPOOK|WPOOK]] have an animated advert banner.  Penubag got working on it right away.  Here's what he's come up with so far:

<center>[[File:Qxz-ad184.gif]]</center>
{{clear}}
Penubag needs feedback.

I've posted a few changes for him to make to it.

Please post additional comments and suggestions for him at [[User talk:Penubag#Chocolate banner]].

Thank you.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 02:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Request to participate in University of Washington survey on tool to quickly understand Wikipedians’ reputations ==

Hello. I'm part of a research group at the University of Washington. In April, we met with some local Wikipedians to learn what they would like to know about other editors’ history and activities (within Wikipedia) when interacting with them on talk pages. The goal of those sessions was to gather feedback to help design an embedded application that could quickly communicate useful information about other Wikipedians. We have now created a few images that we feel represent some of what our participants thought was important. We would appreciate it if you took a few minutes of your time to complete an online survey that investigates whether or not these images would be useful to you.  Your quick contribution would be very valuable to our research group and ultimately to Wikipedia. (When finished, the code for this application will be given over to the Wikipedia community to use and/or adjust as they see fit.)

Willing to spend a few minutes taking our survey? [https://catalysttools.washington.edu/webq/survey/commprac/78947 Click this link.] 

Please feel free to share the link with other Wikipedians. The more feedback, the better!
The survey is completely anonymous and takes less than 10 minutes to complete. All data is used for university research purposes only. 

Thank you for your time! If you have any questions about our research or research group, please visit our user page. [[User:Commprac01|Commprac01]] ([[User talk:Commprac01|talk]]) 21:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 

Additional details about our research group are [https://courses.washington.edu/commprac/index.html available here].

== Outline collaboration! ==

As you know, Penubag is working on a banner to advertise the Outline WikiProject.  And he's almost done.

The banner prominently presents the "Outline of chocolate", which of course will become ''the most widely advertised outline'' as soon as the banner goes live.  The first thing many editors will do after seeing the banner is look for that outline.

The problem is, we don't have one.

So that's our first outline collaboration!

I started a '''[[Wikipedia:Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of chocolate|draft]]''' this morning. 

It needs to be finished and moved to the article namespace before we can start using Penubag's banner ad!

Come join in on the fun.  It's chocolate!

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 22:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Outline update - Full Steam Ahead! - 06/18/2009 ==

Several members of the WikiProject have been hard at work.

'''[[User talk:Buaidh|Buaidh]]''' has been building and refining the outlines on the U.S. States, the states' historical outlines, and the [[Historical outline of the United States]].  Lately, his edits have dominated the project's watchlist readout.  (I think he's overdue for a barnstar or two.  hint hint)

'''[[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]''' has been working on medals for all the main branches of the OOK, and has completed the OOK WikiProject's animated advert banner (see below).

'''[[User talk:Highfields|Highfields]]''' has been filling in the currencies for each country on their respective outlines.

'''[[User talk:NuclearWarfare|NuclearWarfare]]''' and '''[[User talk:Thehelpfulone|Thehelpfulone]]''' have been busy with [[WP:AWB]], posting banners and notices, and helping our sister project, the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Index|Index WikiProject]], get established.  Indexes work hand-in-hand with the outlines and are prominently linked to from the top of most of them.  And the outlines, which serve as tables of contents, are only as good as the pages they link to.

Since we started integrating (linking) the OOK and its support pages into the encyclopedia and into the Wikipedia community, activity on outlines has been increasing.  Though there's still much left to do.

But I digress.  There are a couple more...

=== Welcome our new members! [[User talk:Stefan|Stefan]] and [[User talk:MacMed|MacMed]]===

'''[[User talk:Stefan|Stefan]]''' is building the '''[[Outline of sharks]]'''.  

'''[[User talk:MacMed|MacMed]]''' has joined our advanced wiki-tools team, and is currently adding links to outlines in the corresponding subject articles' see also sections.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and say "hi".

=== WPOOK's advert banner has gone live! ===
'''[[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]''' has finished this WikiProject's animated advert banner, and it is now being displayed on the [[Template:Wikipedia ads|Wikipedia ads template]] which in turn is displayed on about 2000 user pages.  Each time someone access one of those pages, there is a 1 in 184 chance of them viewing this:

{{Wikipedia ads|ad=184}}

If you'd like to display the banner on your userpage locked-on to the ad as above, use the following code:

'''<nowiki>{{Wikipedia ads|ad=184}}</nowiki>'''

(By the way, it's been awhile since we've barnstarred [[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]).

=== Watchers needed! ===

If you haven't already, please add the entire project's watchlist to your watchlist.  Here's how:

:From the edit window, copy and paste [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist]] into your raw watchlist.

:Or go to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes]] and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu in Wikipedia's sidebar on the left hand side of the screen.

=== Check the watchlist every time you log on! ===

I forgot to mention this step above.  :)

=== The OOK is in 5 other Wikipedias? ===
I can't make heads or tails of 'em, but these links were on [[Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge]]:

* [[:ar:ويكيبيديا:مواضيع أساسية]]
* [[:fa:پورتال:فهرست موضوعات پایه]]
* [[:pl:Przegląd dziedzin wiedzy]]
* [[:pt:Portal:Conteúdo/Esboço do conhecimento]]
* [[:zh-yue:基礎課題表清單]]

=== Resurrected from the grave yard... ===

I discovered an AfD discussion on possibly the first article named "Outline of", which was called '''[[Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics]]''', and which was created 4 years ago.  Of course they deleted it.  But now it has many friends, and so it has risen from the dead.  :)

See the DRV discussion at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 June 7#Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics]].

=== A diamond buried in project space ===

* When [[User talk:G716|G716]] found the page "Learn" tucked away as a subpage of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Probability|Probability WikiProject]], he thought "This deserves to be in the article space", and moved it to the encyclopedia.  See '''[[Outline of probability]]'''.

=== Recruiting ===

Recruiters needed.  Drop me a note if you are interested.

=== Advice from the mentors ===
* '''[[User talk:Astatine-210|Astatine-210]]''', '''[[User talk:Strdst grl|Strdst grl]]''', and '''[[User talk:Willscrlt|Willscrlt]]'''  - link to the outlines from the corresponding subject articles' see also sections - this is underway by '''[[User talk:MacMed|MacMed]]''' (non-country outlines) and '''[[User talk:NuclearWarfare]]''' (counry outlines).
* '''[[User talk:Astatine-210|Astatine-210]]''' - add a link to the outlines to the disambiguation pages of the corresponding subjects - good idea. Since "Outline" is just the type of page, not the subject, I think these might qualify for inclusion on disambiguation pages.  We need someone to look into the relevant guidelines on this.
* '''[[User talk:SimonTrew|SimonTrew]]''' - provide a badge (userbox) for WPOOK members to add to their user pages - '''[[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]''' will have one for us soon.
* '''[[User talk:Zachary crimsonwolf|Zachary crimsonwolf]]''' - create a [[User:Zachary crimsonwolf/Cards|card]] explaining outlines, and send it to everyone you know, and make it viral (by including a request for the recipients to send the card to everyone ''they'' know) - this task has been split in three:
:# Creation of a "thank you for your interest" card which introduces (explains) outlines, to send to queriers, new participants to discussions, those who seem to be confused about outlines, etc.
:# Creation of a thank you card / invitation to the [[WP:WPOOK|WPOOK]], to send to users we see working on outlines, including a request for them to invite others whom they think might be interested 
* '''[[User talk:weebiloobil|weebiloobil]]''' - contact Wikignomes - OK...
::3. Creation of an invitation to Wikignomes, with a brief rundown on the types of tasks there are for them to do on the outlines.  The invitation will include a request for them to invite anyone they think would enjoy working on outlines.
* '''[[User talk:weebiloobil|weebiloobil]]''' - add examples to [[Wikipedia:Outlines]] - more examples will be added as suitable outlines are completed
* '''[[User talk:weebiloobil|weebiloobil]]''' - add a picture to [[Wikipedia:Outlines]] (it doesn't have to be relevant), to provide atmosphere and to break it up visually and add a splash of color - will do, and we'll add a caption to make it relevant, with a link to the outline on that subject.  Thank you for the idea.
* '''[[User talk:Zachary crimsonwolf|Zachary crimsonwolf]]''' - ask Jimbo Wales to bestow the award(s) for the country outlines contest, once you get it going first - we'll give that a try
* '''[[User talk:Zachary crimsonwolf|Zachary crimsonwolf]]''' - ask everyone in the project to inform their acquaintances around Wikipedia about the OOK - will do, as soon as the cards 
* '''[[User talk:UzEE|UzEE]]''' - collaborate with all the WikiProjects you share scope with - we've placed a banner on their talk pages, and have placed task notices on some.  We'll be posting more tasks, and plan to create a section on contents system development and maintenance for each WikiProject page itself.
* '''[[User talk:SriMesh|SriMesh]]''' - if you can't get outlines added to next year's [[WP:CUP|WikiCup]], then create your own WikiCup-like contest - there's 6 months left to this year to address reservations and work out the details at WikiCup.  In the meantime, there's the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#Country outline contest proposal|200-WikiProject contest]], which needs input.

=== More outline tasks ===

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of chocolate]] draft - our current outline collaboration!
* [[Outline of psychology]] - someone moved a big chunk of this article to the talk page, leaving a big gap in the outline.  Editors are needed to add subheadings and links.
* See also links - add <nowiki>{{main|Outline of x}}</nowiki> (where "x" is the subject) to the see also section of the corresponding subject article of each outline

==== New outlines in article space ====
* [[Outline of sharks]] - under construction in article space
* [[Outline of Hinduism]] (converted from "List of Hinduism-related topics")

==== New outline drafts ====

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of chocolate|Outline of chocolate]]
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of Christianity|Outline of Christianity]]

=== Main discussion pages === 

* [[Wikipedia talk:Outlines]]
* [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Outline of knowledge]]
* [[Portal talk:Contents/Outline of knowledge]]

=== Keep up the great work ===

I'm impressed with the level of enthusiasm and work going into the outlines.  I'm proud to be working with each of you.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 23:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Outline collaboration #2: [[Outline of Gibraltar]] ==

This outline is approaching completion.

I added a bunch more links, finding them with the following Google site-specific searches of Wikipedia:
* [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&num=100&q=allintitle%3A++%22of%22+%22Gibraltar%22+-highway+-portal+-category+-template+-user+-talk+-%22Wikipedia%3AWikiProject%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F&aq=f&oq=&aqi= "of" and "Gibraltar"]

* [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&num=100&q=allintitle%3A++%22in%22+%22Gibraltar%22+-highway+-portal+-category+-template+-user+-talk+-%22Wikipedia%3AWikiProject%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F&aq=f&oq=&aqi= "in" and "Gibraltar"]

* [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&num=100&q=allintitle%3A++%22for%22+%22Gibraltar%22+-highway+-portal+-category+-template+-user+-talk+-%22Wikipedia%3AWikiProject%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F&aq=f&oq=&aqi= "for" and "Gibraltar"]

* [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&num=100&q=allintitle%3A++%22Gibraltar%22+-%22Gibraltar+-+Wikipedia%22+-highway+-portal+-category+-template+-user+-talk+-%22Wikipedia%3AWikiProject%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= with "Gibraltar" not at the end]

(You can use the wikicode for the links above as the basis for new searches - just replace "Gibraltar" with any other country or region name).

=== Request: please redirect the redlinks! (bluelinking...) ===

The redlinks need to be bluelinked where possible.  The most useful way is to create redirects leading to the material (which is usually included in a section of an article - see [[Wikipedia:Redirect#Redirects to page sections]].  That way, when the redirect pages are replaced by the actual articles, the links will already point to the right places.

Please take a crack at it, and bluelink a few.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 01:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: on an unrelated matter, where should the [[Outline of chocolate]] be placed on the [[WP:2|OOK]]?  ''-TT''

== [[User talk:Penubag#Nice project page|I finally got to whack somebody with a trout!]] ==

That was fun.  :)

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 00:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Outline update - Push push push - 06/25/2009 ==

Work is proceeding apace...

* '''[[User talk:Juliancolton|Julian]]''' is working on getting a bot account (and he delivered this update as his trial run).
* '''[[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]''' is working on the '''[[WP:WPOOK|Project page]]''' and upcoming contest.
* '''[[User talk:Buaidh|Buaidh]]''' is developing '''[[:Category:Historical outlines of US states|all of the U.S. state historical outlines]]'''.
* '''[[User talk:Tarheel95|Tarheel95]]''' is writing a proposal to add a link to the '''[[Main Page]]''' leading to the '''[[WP:OOK|the OOK]]'''.
* '''[[User talk:Highfields|Highfields]]''' is integrating the OOK into the encyclopedia by '''[[Wikipedia:Orphan|deorphanizing]]''' outlines by placing a {{tl|main}} link in the see also section of the subject articles that have a corresponding outline.
* I've been trying to keep up with them.  :)

; New members

* '''[[User talk:Minnecologies|Minnecologies]]''' - developing '''[[Outline of forestry]]''' and is watching the big picture.
* '''[[User talk:Mnation2|Mnation2]]''' - improving '''[[Outline of Lebanon]]'''

; Hatnotes

The current consensus is that we can't place a hatnote leading to an outline at the top of a subject articles unless the outline being presented is of at least the same quality-level as the article.

; What's next...

Improve outline quality by completing them.

Place hatnotes for the outlines of high enough quality.

Guidelines pertaining to outlines need to be updated.  Outlines emerged as a class of pages only a few months ago, and most of the relevant guidelines don't cover them specifically.  For example, '''[[Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists]]''' is incredibly out of date.

Invite wikignomes, wikielves, and wikifairies (all 2500+ of them) to help on the outlines .

Identify 600 more subjects with coverage extensive enough to justify outlines, create rudimentary drafts for them, and post notices to the corresponding WikiProjects and subject talk pages to help build them.

Convert outlines titled "List of" to outline articles, and add them to the OOK.  There are a few hundred of these.  Conversion instructions are needed.

Add a description of outlines to '''[[Wikipedia:About|About Wikipedia]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Basic navigation]]''', and add tips about outlines to the '''[[WP:TOTD]]''' and '''[[WP:TIPS|Tips library]]'''.

; Keep up the great work!

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 20:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== Request for feedback ==

[[User talk:Minnecologies|Minnecologies]] has done an incredible amount of work on [[Outline of forestry]] and posted a note to me on my talk page requesting feedback.  

I've posted my observations at [[Talk:Outline of forestry#Finished outline review]].

Please take a look at the outline and let Minnecologies know what you think of it on the outline's talk page.

Thank you.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 19:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
<small>Delivered by [[User:JCbot|JCbot]] ([[User talk:JCbot|talk]]) at 20:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC).</small>

== Outline Update - Exhausted - 07/10/2009 ==

I'm sorry that I haven't been available to assign tasks lately.  For the past 3 days (not including today) I've been almost totally consumed in discussions concerning the location and very existence  of outlines.  Today I finally broke free and got back to work on outlines.  Felt good.

A great deal has been happening with outlines and behind the scenes.  I just don't have time to tell you all about it this time around.  Here's the best I can do...

; How to watch what's going on with outlines

If you'd like a bird's eye view of ''everything'' that's happening with respect to outlines, see this page:

* [[WP:OOKWL]] - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.

Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):

* [[WP:OOKRC]] - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
* [[WP:OOKDIR]] - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts. 
* [[WP:OOKDISC]] - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.
 
; Recently converted to outlines

These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format:

* '''[[Outline of martial arts]]''' (was "List of martial arts-related topics")
* '''[[Outline of wine]]''' - converted by '''[[User talk:Stefan|Stefan]]''' (was called "List of wine-related topics")
* '''[[Outline of the creation-evolution controversy]]''' (was "List of topics in the creation-evolution controversy")
* '''[[Outline of actuarial science]]''' (was "Actuarial topics")
* '''[[Outline of industrial organization]]''' (was "List of topics in industrial organization")
; Recently merged into outlines

There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines.  Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles.  The following one have been recently merged:

* [[List of finance topics]] into '''[[Outline of finance]]'''

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Outline Update - Basking in the light of knowledge - 07/28/2009 ==

Phase two of outline integration (de-orphanizing outlines by adding links leading to them into article see also sections) is nearly complete.  The better that outlines are integrated into the encyclopedia, the more use they will be to readers.

Due to greater exposure through outline integration, and with most of the OOK team on school summer vacation, development activity on outlines has increased a lot...  

; New members

: Be sure to welcome our newest members to the team:
:* [[User talk:Tiamut|Tiamut]]
:* [[User talk:Mandsford|Mandsford]]

; News<nowiki>:</nowiki> '''''[[Outline of Palestine]] survives AfD'''''

:The outline was nominated for deletion for being too general in scope. The consensus was overwhelmingly for keeping it.

:The most memorable comment was posted by [[User talk:Mandsford|Mandsford]]: ''I like the poetic name, anyway. [Outline of Palestine].  "Master Plan of Pakistan" and "Rough Sketch of Bangladesh" would be good too.''

:Special thanks to [[User talk:Tiamut|Tiamut]] for greatly improving the outline, and helping to save it from AfD.

:To keep track of outline AfDs and other outline-related discussions, see '''[[WP:OOKDISC]]'''.

; Who's active '''''on Wikipedia''''' this summer?

:Courtesy of [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]], [[User:Rich Farmbrough/temp16|here's a list of editors by their edit counts over the previous month (8th June to 8th July)]].

: It would be nice to get the most prolific Wikipedians involved with [[WP:WPOOK]]. If you can, find a good reason to contact one or more of them, and invite them to work on a relevant outline - or all 500!

; Who's been up to what?

:* '''[[User talk:Buaidh|Buaidh]]''', '''[[User talk:Highfields|Highfields]]''', and '''[[User talk:Gimme danger|Gimme danger]]''' have been working on the government sections of the country outlines.  Being that there are about 240 of these, with critical information being filled in on each, this is by far the hardest and most important chore of this WikiProject right now.
:* '''[[User talk:Penubag|Penubag]]''' is working on a redesign of the top OOK page.
:* '''[[User talk:Tiamut|Tiamut]]''' has done an incredible job developing the [[Outline of Palestine]].
:* And kudos also go to '''[[User talk:Eu.stefan|Eu.stefan]]''' for his work on [[Outline of Buddhism]].

Thank you.

Here's what else has been going on...

; New outlines

:Recently created outlines include:

:* '''[[Outline of England]]''' - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''
:* '''[[Outline of Scotland]]''' - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''
:* '''[[Outline of Buddhism]]''' - [[User talk:Eu.stefan|Eu.stefan]]
:* '''[[Outline of ancient Greece]]''' - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''

; Recently converted to outlines

:These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format and added to the OOK:

:* '''[[Outline of the Vietnam War]]''' - was "List of Vietnam War-related topics" - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''
:* '''[[Outline of combinatorics]]''' - was "List of combinatorics topics" - converted by [[User talk:Minnecologies|Minnecologies]]
:* '''[[Outline of category theory]]''' - was "List of category theory topics" converted by [[User talk:Minnecologies|Minnecologies]]
:* '''[[Outline of scientific method]]''' - was "List of scientific method topics" - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''
:* '''[[Outline of ancient Rome]]''' - was "List of topics related to ancient Rome" - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''

; Recently merged into outlines

:There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines.  Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles.  The following articles have been recently merged into OOK pages:

:* [[List of finance topics]] into '''[[Outline of finance]]''' - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''
:* [[List of England-related topics]] into '''[[Outline of England]]''' - ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|TT]]''

; Outlines that have been tagged
:Tags are requests to fix a problem or improve an article in a particular way.  Unless we want the tags to sit there for an extended period of time cluttering up the outlines (we don't), it is up to us to fulfill those requests or attend to underlying misassumptions (if any).

:* '''[[Outline of literature]]''' - tagged as Original research
:* '''[[Outline of ancient Greece]]''' - tagged as under construction
:* '''[[Outline of mathematics]] - tagged as in need of attention from an expert
:* '''[[Outline of arithmetic]]''' - tagged as not citing any references or sources.
:* '''[[Outline of immunology]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of organic chemistry]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of psychology]]''' - tagged as in need of attention from an expert on the subject
:* '''[[Outline of family and consumer science]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of energy storage]]''' - tagged as  an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of nuclear technology]]''' - tagged as   an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of ergonomics]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of construction]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of machines]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of free software]]''' - tagged as an orphan
:* '''[[Outline of design]]''' - tagged as containing original research or unverified claims, and needing references or sources
:* '''[[Outline of automobiles]]''' - tagged as an orphan

; I can't stress enough the importance of watching

: With so many outlines (now over 500), and a growing number of support pages (guidelines, wikiproject pages, etc.), I can no longer keep up.  I need your help watching over it all.

: If you'd like to omnisciently view ''everything'' "from above", see this page:

:* [[WP:OOKWL]] - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.

:Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):

:* [[WP:OOKRC]] - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
:* [[WP:OOKDIR]] - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts. 
:* [[WP:OOKDISC]] - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.

; What's next?

There are a lot of contradictions in guidelines related to outlines.  I'll be turning my attention to fixing those.

The number of "Outline of" articles is rapidly catching up to portals, and will probably pass them by the end of the summer!

Keep up the excellent work.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 01:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== We're working on something special... ==

...to award [[User:Buaidh|Buaidh]] for all his hard work.

It's at [[User:Penubag/Sandbox3]].

But it's not done yet.  Feel free to help improve it.

I'm hoping that everyone involved with the [[WP:WPOOK]] will sign it (please sign without a timestamp).

Thank you.

[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<i>The Transhumanist</i>]] 23:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== OOK collaboration: [[Outline of knowledge]] (eom) ==
<small>Delivered by –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] at 21:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)</small>

== ''[[The Lion King]]'' GAR ==

As a major contributor to ''[[The Lion King]]'', I thought you'd want to know that that article is currently under going a [[WP:GAR|Good Article Reassessment]] as part of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps|GA Sweeps]]. The article currently fails the [[WP:GAC|good article criteria]], as detailed at [[Talk:The Lion King/GA1]]. Its reassessment is on hold for seven days to allow time for the issues to be addressed. Thanks. -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342FF'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)H

== prose ==

Hi Anna, could you take a look at the prose and MOS of [[Greco-Persian Wars]] in October? It's a very long article and I'm GA reviewing it, so help on these issues would be much appreciated. Thanks. Greetings [[User:Wandalstouring|Wandalstouring]] ([[User talk:Wandalstouring|talk]]) 11:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

==Help==
Hi Anna, deleted (page) Category:Military of the Ming Dynasty and Category:History of the Ming Dynasty.--[[User:Yongle the Great|Yongle the Great]] ([[User talk:Yongle the Great|talk]]) 07:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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