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====Narrowing====
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<includeonly>[[File:Three disambiguation arrows icon in rounded blue square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Disambiguate]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663613222|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663613222"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''disambiguate'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 18:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Narrowing">{{no redirect|1 = Narrowing }}</span> → [[:Semantic change#Types of semantic change]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Narrowing|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Narrowing|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Narrowing|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-05&end=2022-09-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Narrowing|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Narrowing|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Narrowing]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Narrowing|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Narrowing]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Narrowing|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Narrowing]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

There are a lot of possible things people could have in mind when they search the word "narrowing," and not all of them have to do with CS. Could this be a dab page instead? <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:Mover of molehills|Mover of molehills]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Mover of molehills|move me]]</sup> 23:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' [[Narrowing (computer science)]] is the only thing I'm seeing that isn't a partial title match, but without reading the article (where they types of semantic change, including narrowing, are not really explained) I'd have said that about [[semantic narrowing]] too. Wiktionary indicates "narrowing" is the name for part of a stocking, but there is no use of the word at [[stocking]]. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 10:38, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
* Yeah, a disambiguation page would make sense. —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 16:46, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Disambiguate''' per the aboves -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.88.43|64.229.88.43]] ([[User talk:64.229.88.43|talk]]) 05:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' For a firmer consensus on disambiguating.<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 23:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Disambiguate'''. I have drafted a dab below the redirect, however, there are some issues. I have tried to pull out the major partial title matches that can be referred to as simply "narrowing" (making them valid entries for a dab page) and created some redirects using parenthetical disambiguation, while others have natural disambiguation. The existing such redirect, {{no redirect|Narrowing (computer science)}}, targets a section at [[Unification (computer science)]], but there is also [[Narrowing of algebraic value sets]] which is either the same or a closely related topic, and at least makes "(computer science)" incomplete disambiguation. Someone with some expertise needs to determine how to reconcile these two. Besides the descriptions needing some improvement, it's also likely additional entries should be added, but I think the draft dab is a significant improvement over the status quo, since the current target is clearly not the primary topic. [[User:Mdewman6|Mdewman6]] ([[User talk:Mdewman6|talk]]) 22:51, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*:There is also the redirect {{no redirect|Q-based narrowing}} resulting from a [[WP:BLAR]] that targets the stub [[Q-principle]], potentially making the {{no redirect|Narrowing (linguistics)}} redirect I just created {{tl|R from incomplete disambiguation}}, but I'm not sure how to disentangle them, as both involve semantics and linguistics but are distinct topics. [[User:Mdewman6|Mdewman6]] ([[User talk:Mdewman6|talk]]) 23:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Disambig'''. That drafted dab might not be perfect, but it's a lot better than the status quo and much more helpful than search results. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 23:40, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Disambiguate''' using the draft. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 08:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Mannerbunde====
<noinclude><span id="Mannerbunde"></span><span id="Männerbünde"></span><span id="Männerbund"></span></noinclude>
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Mannerbunde]]

====Castell carreg cennin====
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<includeonly>[[File:White check mark in dark green rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Keep]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663635669|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663635669"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''keep'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 01:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Castell carreg cennin">{{no redirect|1 = Castell carreg cennin }}</span> → [[:Carreg Cennen Castle]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Castell carreg cennin|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Castell carreg cennin|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Castell carreg cennin|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Castell_carreg_cennin|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Castell carreg cennin|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castell carreg cennin]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Castell carreg cennin|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castell carreg cennin]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Castell carreg cennin|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castell carreg cennin]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Implausible misspelling, too old for CSD. I've created a redirect from the [[Castell Carreg Cennen|correct Welsh name]] as a replacement. [[User:Jr8825|<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'; color:#6F0000;">Jr8825</span>]] • [[User Talk:Jr8825|<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'; color:#4682B4;">Talk</span>]] 21:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Agree with Jr8825: having the actual Welsh name as a redirect is helpful as people may be searching for it, but a version with typo less so. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell|talk]]) 22:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom, this is not a common misspelling (even most of the hits for this exact phrase turn out to actually be the correct "Cennen"). [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 22:34, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' The misspelling is perfectly plausible and probably quite common. ''Cennin'' in Welsh is a leek, whereas ''Cennen'' is just the name of a small river close to the castle and not an actual word in modern Welsh. The mistake would be a natural one. Examples of this mislabeling include [https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/23337]. A more modern example: [https://shop.photo4me.com/1143096/framed-mounted-print?o=21&e=12&s=309&u=mm&share=false]. As long as we allow redirects from plausible mis-spellings, this one is fine - but clearly the redirect from the correct Welsh name is better, so thanks for adding that.  [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 07:30, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*:Just going to add to my reasoning to say that (1) presumably the creator of the redirect was an example of this common mis-spelling and (2) that numbers here will be necessarily small but also consistent. The reason is that the most likely demographic for making this error would be people living in Wales, who have some Welsh (all children learn Welsh in school) but not necessarily fluent (so reading Wikipedia in English - but fluent speakers also frequent English Wikipedia because the articles tend to be fuller). My feeling is it is largely, although not entirely, Welsh children doing school projects who are most likely to type the above. That population is small compared to all readers, but also an important demographic for the article. However Google will probably sort them out, so my keep !vote is predicated on the principle we allow plausible mis-spellings. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 16:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Keep''': per Sirfurboy's rationale. Cennen being a relatively unknown word in Welsh compared to Cennin makes this plausible.  [[User:TartarTorte|<b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>]][[User talk:TartarTorte|<b>Torte</b>]] 16:31, 13 September 2022 (UTC) <!--VCB TartarTorte Castell carreg cennin-->
* '''Keep''' per Sirfurboy's proof of the typo's prominent use. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 23:07, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Jeff Brown (author)====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Jeff Brown (author)]]

====Double V====
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<includeonly>[[File:White check mark in dark green rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Keep]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663635275|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663635275"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''keep'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top--> and added hatnote to [[VV]] at the current target. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 00:54, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Double V">{{no redirect|1 = Double V }}</span> → [[:Double V campaign]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Double V|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Double V|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Double V|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-06&end=2022-09-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Double_V|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Double V|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double V]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Double V|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double V]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Double V|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double V]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>
*<span id="Double v">{{no redirect|1 = Double v }}</span> → [[:Double V campaign]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Double v|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Double v|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Double v|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-06&end=2022-09-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Double_v|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Double v|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double v]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Double v|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double v]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Double v|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Double v]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>
{{old rfd list|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 October 12#Double v → W|Keep}}
[Retarget to [[W]] because] That is more common. Some languages call it "Double V" (translated to English), and a few of them call "Double U". [[Special:Contributions/176.88.83.60|176.88.83.60]] ([[User talk:176.88.83.60|talk]]) 20:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*<small>Nomination fixed and redirects tagged by [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 20:24, 5 September 2022 (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment''' [[Double V]] was created as a redirect to [[Armada Music#Signed artists]] in 2016, and was retargetted to [[Double V campaign]] by [[user:JalenFolf|JalenFolf]] in 2020. [[Double v]] was created as a redirect to [[W]] in 2008, nominated for deletion (initially prodded) a couple of weeks later but consensus was to keep. I remained pointing at [[W]] until 2016 when it was retargetted to [[Double V campaign]] by [[user:Mitchumch|Mitchumch]]. The campaign article was created in 2014 and so not discussed at the last RfD. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 20:42, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Weak keep''' and hatnote. The WWII campaign is slightly more prominent in google search results than the letter, but whatever target is chosen needs a hatnote to the other and, possibly, [[VV]] (a disambiguation page). [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 20:51, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Retarget''' to [[VV]], and <u>add</u> [[Double V campaign]] to that page. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 21:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:Assuming you meant ''add'' Double V campaign to the dab page, then I'm equally happy with that. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 22:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:: Amended to "add". [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 22:57, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Disambiguate''' to the campaign, the artist, "w" and "vv" -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.88.43|64.229.88.43]] ([[User talk:64.229.88.43|talk]]) 05:09, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
** The artist no longer appears in the [[Armada Music]] article at all. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 17:15, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
*** It'll still be a 3dab after removing the artist -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.88.43|64.229.88.43]] ([[User talk:64.229.88.43|talk]]) 05:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
**** All three can already be found at [[VV]]. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 21:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Keep''' with hatnote to [[VV]] and possibly [[W]], as nothing else at '''VV''' would likely be called "Double V". –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 03:44, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and resolve ambiguity with hatnote to [[VV]]. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 08:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====42nd-91th, 96th-97th centuries====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 1%2342nd-91th, 96th-97th centuries]]

====Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy====
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<includeonly>[[File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Retarget]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663635135|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663635135"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''retarget'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top--> to [[List of British dark comedies]]. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 00:52, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy">{{no redirect|1 = Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy }}</span> → [[:Category:British black comedy television shows]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/British_Dark_Comedy|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

I don't think this is helpful:  [[Articles for creation/British Dark Comedy]] is red. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 09:51, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*Before draftspace existed, draft articles by those unable to created pages in the article namespace were created as subpages of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation]] and then moved to mainspace. We generally keep these redirects per [[WP:RDRAFT]], but in this case the article [[British dark comedy]] was moved to [[List of British dark comedies]] and that was then redirected to the category. I've recommended above that the list article be restored, if it is then this should be retargetted back to it. If the list is not restored then this should be kept or deleted the same as the redirect. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 11:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', any use this would have had has long since expired. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:20, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
* '''Speedy delete''' per [[WP:G8]] as a talk page of a nonexistent page. [[User:FAdesdae378|FAdesdae378]] ([[User talk:FAdesdae378|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/FAdesdae378|contribs]]) 03:00, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' [[List of British dark comedies]] was restored as per its RfD, so that makes this a retarget vote.<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 18:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Retarget''' to [[List of British dark comedies]] (which has been restored per [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 28#List of British dark comedies]]) as that's where the content that was originally created here now lives, per the spirit of [[WP:RDRAFT]]. I don't believe that redirects resulting from accepted drafts created in this way are eligible for G8 speedy deletion. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 20:26, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Retarget''' per Thryduulf. I concur G8 doesn't apply here. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:Why does G8 not apply? [[WP:G8]] does not list redirects from drafts as exemptions to CSD G8. [[User:FAdesdae378|FAdesdae378]] ([[User talk:FAdesdae378|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/FAdesdae378|contribs]]) 02:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
*::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion&diff=832090872&oldid=832090374 Here's Pppery's explanation when removing it from G8]. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 02:17, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
*::: For what it's worth, I suspect that redirects of this sort completely slipped my mind when I made that edit in March 2018 (although it's difficult to remember four years ago). Even accepting that, G8 doesn't apply here because this page is not, and never was, a talk page in the first place. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 23:39, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
*::Even if they were included in G8, speedy deletion does not apply to any page where there are good faith objections to deletion, as there are here. G8 explicitly excludes pages that are useful to Wikipedia, and the consensus noted at [[WP:RDRAFT]] (and previously explicitly in the G8 language when this was the location drafts were created) is that retaining these redirects is beneficial to the project. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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*'''Retarget''' to [[List of British dark comedies]] as the former location of a draft of that article. [[User:A7V2|A7V2]] ([[User talk:A7V2|talk]]) 08:08, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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====2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663692372|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663692372"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. In addition to receiving a numerical majority, arguments for deletion make a compelling case for why the preexisting article would be [[WP:SNOW]] at AfD <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 16:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election">{{no redirect|1 = 2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election }}</span> → [[:Elections in Jammu and Kashmir]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2019_Jammu_and_Kashmir_Legislative_Assembly_election|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019">{{no redirect|1 = Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019 }}</span> → [[:Elections in Jammu and Kashmir]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-30&end=2022-08-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jammu_and_Kashmir_Legislative_Assembly_election,_2019|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, 2019]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; <small>Added. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 14:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)</small>

there weren't any legislative assembly election in JnK in 2019 -[[User:MPGuy2824|MPGuy2824]] ([[User talk:MPGuy2824|talk]]) 04:23, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*'''Revert''' to the article without prejudice to AfD. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:37, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', this is a perfect example of inappropriate article content to restore. We should not and cannot restore false and/or outdated information. As explained at [[Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]], there has not been a Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election since 2014 and there is not one scheduled. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:25, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*:Whether article content is appropriate or not is something that can only be judged at an appropriate venue for discussing article content. RfD is not such a venue, AfD is. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 19:04, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*::RfD is the appropriate venue for discussing redirects, which this is. Please provide evidence of scope for an article at this title. There was ''not'' an election in 2019, so you are making an argument to restore false information, which is ''absolutely'' in violation of [[WP:V]]. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
*:::The page history contains a sourced article stating that elections "are due to be held in 2019". Whether there is scope for an article about elections that were due to happen but did not is not something that RfD is an appropriate venue to discuss for multiple reasons. You are not the sole arbiter of what is appropriate article content. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
*::::Lol, I'm not trying to be a "sole arbiter", this is a discussion to establish consensus on what to do with this redirect and I'm explaining my position for anyone who wants to read it to help them come to the common sense conclusion. Can you at least take a step back and ''think'' about what you're wanting to restore? Would you ''really'' think it's appropriate to restore an entirely outdated article that only establishes that an election is "due to be held in 2019" in ''2022''? --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 11:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
*:::::If it were to be restored and then preserved as-is forever, definitely not. However this is a wiki, I'm proposing it be restored so that those with knowledge of the subject can properly and easily evaluate it so that it can be updated, merged or deleted after discussion in venues where articles are properly discussed and those people who are knowledgeable about the topic and/or have other relevant expertise relating to discussions of article content like this can find it. I have considered what I am proposing to be restored and, having considered it, relevant policies and guidelines, past consensuses and general practice, I believe that the goals of the project will best be served by restoring the article for the reasons I've explained here and in multiple previous discussions where you've objected to doing things properly. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 14:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
*::::::There is nothing there to update because the election in question did not take place—the redirected article reads like a faulty crystal ball. It would either be a restoration to promote false/outdated information, which is very much <u>not</u> in the best interests of this project or be a restoration purely for the exercise of deletion elsewhere, which [[WP:NOTBURO|makes little sense]] because it would be twice the effort for the same obvious result. If you have any reliable sourcing that the election was scheduled to take place in 2019, then that can be noted at [[Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] and then this can be retargeted there. That is the only other outcome besides deletion that would not be to the detriment of this project. The source in the redirected article is from 2018 and notes that it would be "not anytime soon" so I have not seen establishment of a 2019 date. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 14:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 21:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*{{s|Weak restore article and presumably send to AFD (and retarget the second redirect to it so it can share its fate at AFD). Second First preference is to retarget to [[Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] where the lack of an election taking place since the 2018 dissolution is discussed.}} [[User:A7V2|A7V2]] ([[User talk:A7V2|talk]]) 08:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
**{{re|A7V2}} What value do you see in this article? I'm genuinely at a loss how AfD would be of benefit here. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
***What value was there in BLARing the existing article to a target which does not discuss the 2019 (non)election? This should have been PRODed or AFDed instead. I don't see any particular value in the article but I don't believe RFD is the place to be deleting articles, especially not referenced ones (see this version [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Jammu_and_Kashmir_Legislative_Assembly_election&oldid=884526497]). [[User:A7V2|A7V2]] ([[User talk:A7V2|talk]]) 23:49, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
****A redirect is certainly more defendable than the article that was there given that by that point there was not going to be an election. {{u|FacetsOfNonStickPans}} was the one that redirected it in case they want to weigh in on that decision. In the three years since it has become established as a redirect, so RfD is the correct venue to delete this redirect. ''If'' there is potential value in the article content and/or ''if'' the status quo is not a redirect, then yes, the article should be restored. If you don't actually want to keep the article, then !voting to restore it just to watch it be deleted at AfD is a pointless exercise in [[WP:NOTBURO|bureaucracy]] and a waste of time for everyone. Let me ask the question a slightly different way: do you see enough value in the article to !vote to keep it at AfD? Simply having sources is not good enough because they can become outdated (like in this example). --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 01:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*****I would prefer that a PROD were an option and only then it gets deleted if we decide it shouldn't exist as a redirect. Perhaps there is an argument to be made that former articles not meeting CSD (and which aren't being retained as part of a merge) are only ever soft deleted at RFD. Thinking about it a bit longer though in this particular case I do agree it should be straight deleted in case it is not kept/retargeted since it is mostly incorrect information and I'm not going to be the one to bother to write a correction before nominating it for deletion at AFD. I still think that [[Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] is a potential target, I am neutral between deletion and retargeting there. [[User:A7V2|A7V2]] ([[User talk:A7V2|talk]]) 05:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as misleading. As per the source provided in the first edit of the article: {{tqq|Jammu and Kashmir Governor Satya Pal Malik said that fresh elections in the state may not be imminent but can be held with 2019 Lok Sabha polls.}} Someone can add this information to [[Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election]] in the past tense, but it won't help this redirect unless its title is changed to something like ''Proposed 2019 election''. If information is available, we can create a redirect with a proper title, and do not require the history of the current redirect for that. Restoring (except for a speedy delete) to a revision that talks about 2019 in future tense will only be bringing outdated content to mainspace.<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 03:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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====93rd-95th centuries====
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<includeonly>[[File:White equals sign on grey rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=No consensus]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1664074668|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1664074668"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''no consensus'''.<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top--> {{User:MJL/N}} &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[User:MJL/P|☖]]</sup></span> 02:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="93rd century">{{no redirect|1 = 93rd century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:93rd century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/93rd century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/93rd century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=93rd_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:93rd century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#93rd century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:93rd century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#93rd century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:93rd century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#93rd century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="94th century">{{no redirect|1 = 94th century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:94th century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/94th century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/94th century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=94th_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:94th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#94th century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:94th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#94th century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:94th century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#94th century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="95th century">{{no redirect|1 = 95th century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:95th century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/95th century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/95th century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=95th_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:95th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#95th century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:95th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#95th century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:95th century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#95th century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

I'm nominating these three separately because part of their history consists of {{u|Dklover77}} converting them into articles when they were "not [...] notable centur[ies] yet." Until sufficient info is known about these centuries, these can be '''deleted''' unless someone can provide a justification or suitable alternative course of action. Regards, [[User:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Bllody Rainan; font-size:90%; color:#0F45D2">SONIC</span>]]''<small>[[User talk:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:#D4AF37">678</span>]]</small>'' 01:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 05:09, 4 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
* '''Keep all''' per above. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:{{re|Pppery}} By per above, if you meant [[WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 4#31st-40th, 100th centuries]], your vote there was {{tqq|as several of these centuries are discussed at the current timeline.}} Are you saying that 93rd, 94th, 95th centuries are also discussed? If so where, and what does "current timeline" mean?<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 16:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 21:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Keep all''' per above:
: While they may be a bit far-fetched, these redirects are topically valid. While we do not have a better link target than the current one at present, this will (predictably) change in the future. If there are sub-topics referring to one of these centuries specifically, the existence of these redirects allows to link to a specific century already. This makes it possible to use reverse lookup to find events which will happen in a specific century.
: While I personally would not have created these redirects at this early stage, now that they have been created and with it being predictable that they would have to be (re-)created in the (distant) future, there is zero point in deleting them. It is often more efficient to have one editor bulk-create redirects following a certain pattern than having to create the redirects on an individual basis by different editors (and in this case even over a span of centuries). It takes less time and energy and it ensures consistency. Sometimes we first add contents and then create infrastructure, but sometimes the infrastructure gets created before the contents. Since we have no timeline and are building this encyclopedia not only for the currently living population but also for users in the distant future, there is no harm done if we keep these redirects. None of the valid deletion criteria at [[WP:R#DELETE]] applies, whereas at least [[WP:R#KEEP]] #3 and #5 apply.
: --[[User:Matthiaspaul|Matthiaspaul]] ([[User talk:Matthiaspaul|talk]]) 18:31, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete All''' - Keep votes do not demonstrate any articles nor content these could point to. The idea that we should keep these for 7000 years until we can write something about the subject is unsound and really is just a variation of NOHARM. I am pretty sure that Wikipedians of the 92nd century don't need our help in choosing a consistent article name for them. I also note that it is unlikely they will be writing in a language recognisable as English, so the consistency would then fail. When it comes down to it, there is no valid redirect target for these ''now'' and if any article emerges in the future that is a valid target, recreating a redirect (or indeed an article) is trivial. As there is no valid target, no information to be found, these should all be deleted. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 08:49, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' any in which the century in question is not mentioned in the target article. The topic is valid, but for the redirect to be valid there must be content to sustain it. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 22:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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====92nd, 98th-99th centuries====
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<includeonly>[[File:White equals sign on grey rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=No consensus]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663692036|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663692036"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''no consensus'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 16:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="92nd century">{{no redirect|1 = 92nd century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:92nd century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/92nd century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/92nd century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=92nd_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:92nd century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#92nd century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:92nd century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#92nd century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:92nd century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#92nd century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="98th century">{{no redirect|1 = 98th century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:98th century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/98th century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/98th century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=98th_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:98th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#98th century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:98th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#98th century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:98th century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#98th century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="99th century">{{no redirect|1 = 99th century }}</span> → [[:Timeline of the far future]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:99th century|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/99th century|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/99th century|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-29&end=2022-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=99th_century|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:99th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#99th century]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:99th century|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#99th century]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:99th century|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#99th century]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

I'm also listing these three separately for similar reasons to 93-95, but with sockpuppet account {{u|98th Century}} converting them into articles. They're also not mentioned on the target page. Regards, [[User:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Bllody Rainan; font-size:90%; color:#0F45D2">SONIC</span>]]''<small>[[User talk:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:#D4AF37">678</span>]]</small>'' 01:11, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 05:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
* '''Keep all''' per above. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:{{re|Pppery}} By per above, if you meant [[WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 4#31st-40th, 100th centuries]], your vote there was {{tqq|as several of these centuries are discussed at the current timeline.}} Are you saying that 92nd, 98th-99th centuries are also discussed? If so where, and what does "current timeline" mean?<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 16:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
*:: "these centuries" refers to all of the centuries from 31th to 100th centuries as a whole (spread across four or five RfDs for no good reason). The fact that they are spread across five RfDs does not change my general argument, which is effectively the same as SnowFire's in that discussion ({{Tq| Seems the most relevant article to redirect to regardless (even for "missing" centuries, if any events are added that take place in them in the future, it'd likely be this article), so it's useful}}). And I suspect by {{Tq|current timeline}} I meant the current target, which is a timeline. {{pb}} I participated in this series of RfDs as if it were one mass nomination, as the only relevant distinguishing factor between them is past histories as articles, which only matters if a deletion is considered. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 21:44, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Delete all''' as above. These do not meet the information need of someone following the link as the page does not discuss the centuries. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 08:46, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep all''' per above:
: While they may be a bit far-fetched, these redirects are topically valid. While we do not have a better link target than the current one at present, this will (predictably) change in the future. If there are sub-topics referring to one of these centuries specifically, the existence of these redirects allows to link to a specific century already. This makes it possible to use reverse lookup to find events which will happen in a specific century.
: While I personally would not have created these redirects at this early stage, now that they have been created and with it being predictable that they would have to be (re-)created in the (distant) future, there is zero point in deleting them. It is often more efficient to have one editor bulk-create redirects following a certain pattern than having to create the redirects on an individual basis by different editors (and in this case even over a span of centuries). It takes less time and energy and it ensures consistency. Sometimes we first add contents and then create infrastructure, but sometimes the infrastructure gets created before the contents. Since we have no timeline and are building this encyclopedia not only for the currently living population but also for users in the distant future, there is no harm done if we keep these redirects. None of the valid deletion criteria at [[WP:R#DELETE]] applies, whereas at least [[WP:R#KEEP]] #3 and #5 apply.
: --[[User:Matthiaspaul|Matthiaspaul]] ([[User talk:Matthiaspaul|talk]]) 18:32, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
::The argument here is just [[WP:NOHARM]]. There is clearly no benefit either from having redirects created and ready for an editor in 7100 years. They are not going to be thanking us for our foresight in creating these for their Wikipedia article. There is no efficiency gain here and consistency will be out of the window considering language drift will ensure they are not writing in English. The question is whether there is any benefit in pre-emptively having redirects around that don't point to any content and are not expected to in our lifetime and beyond. We don't keep redirects that don't point to content. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 06:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' any in which the century in question is not mentioned in the target article. The topic is valid, but for the redirect to be valid there must be content to sustain it. --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 22:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep all''' per the above and per my reasoning in other of these discussions. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 05:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Ethereal plane====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Ethereal plane]]

====Prakrtic plane====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663631274|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663631274"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 23:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Prakrtic plane">{{no redirect|1 = Prakrtic plane }}</span> → [[:Plane (esotericism)#Physical plane]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Prakrtic plane|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Prakrtic plane|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Prakrtic plane|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Prakrtic_plane|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Prakrtic plane|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakrtic plane]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Prakrtic plane|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakrtic plane]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Prakrtic plane|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakrtic plane]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="Prakritic plane">{{no redirect|1 = Prakritic plane }}</span> → [[:Plane (esotericism)#Physical plane]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Prakritic plane|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Prakritic plane|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Prakritic plane|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Prakritic_plane|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Prakritic plane|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakritic plane]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Prakritic plane|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakritic plane]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Prakritic plane|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Prakritic plane]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Not mentioned at the target, no relevant results in Google Scholar and internet searches for "Prakrtic", results for "Prakritic plane" show some use in esotericism but do not clearly identify it with the physical plane, delete unless a justification can be provided. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 18:05, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. From what I've been able to make out, in [[Theosophy]] and/or [[Christian theosophy]] there are seven "Prakritic planes" of which the Physical plane is the lowest. If my understanding is correct we're redirecting a broad topic to a subtopic, which is usually not helpful and certainly when there is no mention at the target. It's entirely possible that one or both of these will be useful titles in the future, but relevant content needs to come first. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 18:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - It is Theosophy but whether it is notable Theosophy is open for debate. If it belonged anywhere it would be in an article about Blavatsky's cosmology. This planes article is problematic because an editor is trying to make it generic in a way that makes it no longer about any one thing, but it clearly has no section on the Prakritic plane so the redirect needs deleting. This redirect is one I missed, but it is related to this one which has attracted few comments [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_10#Arupa]. In that case, too, the creator has directed to a sub section that doesn't really talk about the purported subject at all. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 19:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Cinescope====
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<includeonly>[[File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Retarget]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663539523|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663539523"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''retarget'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top--> to [[CineScope]]. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 22:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Cinescope">{{no redirect|1 = Cinescope }}</span> → [[:CinemaScope]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Cinescope|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Cinescope|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Cinescope|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-06&end=2022-09-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cinescope|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cinescope|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cinescope]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cinescope|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cinescope]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Cinescope|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cinescope]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Not mentioned as a synonym of the target; possibly redirecting this to [[CineScope]] as per the hatnote might be better. [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer]][[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer]][[Special:Contribs/1234qwer1234qwer4|4]] 13:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

*The intention of the redirect was as a possible/probable misspelling/typing of CinemaScope. No real objections to a redirect to [[CineScope]], though not sure about the significance of the current article at that target -  I am doubtful of the notability of the small cinema in Narayanganj, which appears to only have local significance, and which doesn't appear on a Google search for "cinescope", whereas several other companies and cinemas do: [https://www.cinescopeoptics.com/], [https://www.pathe.be/fr/cinemas/cinema-cinescope-louvain-la-neuve], [https://www.cinescopemediauk.com/], [https://www.cinescopepictures.com/], etc. There may be potential for a disamb page at [[CineScope]] because there are other related terms which could be misspelled, such as [[Kinescope]], [[Kinetoscope]], etc. However, redirecting to the existing [[CineScope]] is acceptable as there is a hatnote pointing to [[CinemaScope]]. [[User:SilkTork|SilkTork]] ([[User talk:SilkTork|talk]]) 15:09, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' While it seems like all participants to some extent favor retargetting to [[CineScope]] it seems to have pretty weak support, so a first relist for further discussion seems appropriate<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:TartarTorte|<b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>]][[User talk:TartarTorte|<b>Torte</b>]] 17:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
*'''Retarget''' to [[CineScope]]. Another hatnote can be added to [[Kinescope]] if necessary. Whether or not the cinema is notable isn't really in the scope of this discussion, PROD or AFD it if you feel it isn't notable. [[User:A7V2|A7V2]] ([[User talk:A7V2|talk]]) 08:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Retarget''' to [[CineScope]]. If there's doubt about the notability of that target then send it to [[WP:AFD]]. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 08:23, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Random Monsters (Heroscape)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663617681|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663617681"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 20:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Random Monsters (Heroscape)">{{no redirect|1 = Random Monsters (Heroscape) }}</span> → [[:Heroscape]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Random Monsters (Heroscape)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Random Monsters (Heroscape)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Random Monsters (Heroscape)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Random_Monsters_(Heroscape)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Random Monsters (Heroscape)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Random Monsters (Heroscape)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Random Monsters (Heroscape)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Random Monsters (Heroscape)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Random Monsters (Heroscape)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Random Monsters (Heroscape)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

This is not a faction in Heroscape, and there is no reason that any person would need to search this term to reach the game. [[User:TNstingray|TNstingray]] ([[User talk:TNstingray|talk]]) 15:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' as dud redirect per nom.  '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 15:57, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. Further, not mentioned at target article. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  16:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': per the page's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Random_Monsters_(Heroscape)&oldid=377275306 previous article content], this is not a faction but a term supposedly used in the game. I don't know how factual that is as I haven't played it myself. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 15:43, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*:As someone who does plays the game, this term is not used anywhere. This and the rest of the page are just original research on the part of an overzealous fan. [[User:TNstingray|TNstingray]] ([[User talk:TNstingray|talk]]) 20:40, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as unverifiable. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 23:10, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Bronn-Char (Marvel Cinematic Universe)====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Bronn-Char (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]]

====Fietro====
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<includeonly>[[File:White check mark in dark green rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Keep]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663612812|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663612812"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''keep'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 18:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Fietro">{{no redirect|1 = Fietro }}</span> → [[:Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: A–L#Ralph Bohner]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Fietro|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Fietro|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Fietro|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fietro|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fietro|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fietro]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fietro|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fietro]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Fietro|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fietro]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Is there really any reason to have a throw-away line as a redirect? This is not the characters name, and was used just one time in passing mention. [[User:TNstingray|TNstingray]] ([[User talk:TNstingray|talk]]) 15:38, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as relatively harmless. A Google search of 'Fietro' shows that this is apparently a term used to mean 'Fake Pietro'. As someone who has never watched the show, I don't know what that means, but it is used in the titles of at least one media article. See [https://www.cbr.com/wandavision-fake-pietro-was-never-quicksilver/ here] [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  16:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' this one is fine to keep, it's a legitimate alt name for the character in the show. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 17:28, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per all above. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 15:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Tragedy (Steps song)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White check mark in dark green rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Keep]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663612780|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663612780"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''keep'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 18:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Tragedy (Steps song)">{{no redirect|1 = Tragedy (Steps song) }}</span> → [[:Tragedy (Bee Gees song)#Steps version]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Tragedy (Steps song)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Tragedy (Steps song)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Tragedy (Steps song)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Tragedy_(Steps_song)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tragedy (Steps song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tragedy (Steps song)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tragedy (Steps song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tragedy (Steps song)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Tragedy (Steps song)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tragedy (Steps song)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Should this redirect to [[Heartbeat (Steps song)]] or to [[Tragedy (Bee Gees song)#Steps version]]? The redirect's history (with the latest change being made by an IPv6 user) shows that where to redirect to appears to be controversial. [[User:GeoffreyT2000|GeoffreyT2000]] ([[User talk:GeoffreyT2000|talk]]) 15:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

:It appears that it goes with [[WP:SONGCOVER]], per below that it stated that the cover versions of the said song should not have an article, and it should be in a section of the article of the original song. Covers are enough to be redirected to the original version. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:9BF3:220:9CA5:F403:EF23:F45A|2600:1700:9BF3:220:9CA5:F403:EF23:F45A]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:9BF3:220:9CA5:F403:EF23:F45A|talk]]) 16:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I used this redirect not too long back and [[:Tragedy (Bee Gees song)#Steps version]] contained exactly what I was looking for. I would have been very surprised to arrive at the article for a different song. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - there is content about this version of the song, and we should provide access to it. It is not clear to everyone what song is a cover and which is an original. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  19:59, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Keep''': IP has a good argument per [[WP:SONGCOVER]]. [[User:TartarTorte|<b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>]][[User talk:TartarTorte|<b>Torte</b>]] 22:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC) <!--VCB TartarTorte Tragedy (Steps song)-->
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====Prime Minister of Guatemala====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Prime Minister of Guatemala]]

====State of Myanmar====
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<includeonly>[[File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Retarget]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663597465|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663597465"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''retarget'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top--> to [[Myanmar]]. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 14:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="State of Myanmar">{{no redirect|1 = State of Myanmar }}</span> → [[:State of Burma]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:State of Myanmar|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/State of Myanmar|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/State of Myanmar|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=State_of_Myanmar|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:State of Myanmar|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#State of Myanmar]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:State of Myanmar|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#State of Myanmar]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:State of Myanmar|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#State of Myanmar]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

'''Retarget''' to [[Myanmar]]. The English translation of the country's name from Burma to Myanmar was changed only in 1989. [[User:Privybst|Privybst]] ([[User talk:Privybst|talk]]) 14:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Retarget''' per nom. The target entity ceased to exist in 1945 and, based on a quick skim of the article, was never referred to as "Myanmar" in English. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 14:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Retarget''' per nom. No evidence State of Burma was ever known as State of Myanmar. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  16:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Canadian Republic====
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<includeonly>[[File:White check mark in dark green rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Keep]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663612724|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663612724"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''keep'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 18:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Canadian Republic">{{no redirect|1 = Canadian Republic }}</span> → [[:Republic of Canada]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Canadian Republic|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Canadian Republic|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Canadian Republic|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Canadian_Republic|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Canadian Republic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Canadian Republic]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Canadian Republic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Canadian Republic]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Canadian Republic|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Canadian Republic]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

'''Retarget''' to [[Republicanism in Canada]], and move hatnote there of course. [[User:Privybst|Privybst]] ([[User talk:Privybst|talk]]) 12:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - "Canadian Republic" refers to an entity, not an idea. If anything, the query will be searching for [[Canada]], but this is resolved by the headnote. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  16:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. The redirect is reasonable and the target has an effective hatnote. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 08:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Orconectes australis====
<noinclude><span id="Orconectes australis"></span><span id="Orconectes incomptus"></span></noinclude>
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Orconectes australis]]

====Orconectes hartfieldi====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Orconectes hartfieldi]]

====Anglican Orthodox Southern Episcopal Church====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Anglican Orthodox Southern Episcopal Church]]

====Xanthocroi====
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<includeonly>[[File:White equals sign on grey rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=No consensus]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663606702|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663606702"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''no consensus'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. There is agreement that there is content that can be added to the target, and perhaps one week's time was not sufficient for this. This may be re-nominated in the future if content still could not be added. <span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 16:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Xanthocroi">{{no redirect|1 = Xanthocroi }}</span> → [[:Nordic race]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Xanthocroi|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Xanthocroi|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Xanthocroi|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-06&end=2022-09-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Xanthocroi|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Xanthocroi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Xanthocroi]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Xanthocroi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Xanthocroi]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Xanthocroi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Xanthocroi]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

'''Delete'''. Not-included misspelling of "[[Xanthochroi]]" (which has a different target). [[User:Hildeoc|Hildeoc]] ([[User talk:Hildeoc|talk]]) 02:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and mention Xanthocroi somewhere at the target. Modern coinages from Ancient Greek roots aren't easy to spell in general. {{no redirect|Xanthochroi}} targets [[Historical race concepts#Thomas Huxley's racial definitions]], which states "By the late nineteenth century, Huxley's '''Xanthochroi''' group had been redefined as the Nordic race, whereas his Melanochroi became the Mediterranean race." Accordingly, the piped link below the map there leads directly to [[Nordic race]]. Huxley's [http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/SM3/GeoDis.html own use] of the term sounds a lot like the Nordic race concept too: "They are of tall stature and have the skin almost colourless, and so delicate that the blood really shows through it. The eyes are blue or grey; the hair light, ranging from straw-colour to red or chestnut; the beard and body-hair abundant." [[User:Glades12|Glades12]] ([[User talk:Glades12|talk]]) 06:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC) Removed some slight redundancy 11:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Glades12|Glades12]]: I guess, the correct (!) term should ideally be introduced in ''[[Nordic race]]'' then, as is the case analogously with ''[[Melanochroi]]'' being elucidated at ''[[Mediterranean race]]''. [[User:Hildeoc|Hildeoc]] ([[User talk:Hildeoc|talk]]) 06:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' No mention has been added yet to the current target.<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 10:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
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====Work management====

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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558587|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558587"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. Consensus is clear. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 05:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Work management">{{no redirect|1 = Work management }}</span> → [[:ja:ワークマネジメント]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Work management|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Work management|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Work management|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Work_management|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Work management|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Work management]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Work management|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Work management]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Work management|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Work management]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Delete. Per [[Wikipedia:Soft redirects]], "Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they are generally unhelpful to English-language readers. " [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 07:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

:I tried to create a "work management" page in English, but gave up due to the opinion that it was not necessary.
:So, for the time being, I thought that a soft redirect to the post-Japan page would be a good solution.
:Even Japanese pages can be easily translated into English by Google, etc., so I don't think it's a big problem. [[User:Mocha c jp|Mocha c jp]] ([[User talk:Mocha c jp|talk]]) 08:01, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
::The redirect to Japanese has been canceled.
::It has been replaced with a document translated into English.
::Please consider. [[User:Mocha c jp|Mocha c jp]] ([[User talk:Mocha c jp|talk]]) 07:50, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. The existence of this helps only Japanese speakers and disguises the fact that we don't have any content about the topic - based on google hits this is a notable topic we should have an article about. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 08:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Per above and per policy. Work management is not uniquely Japanese, and redirecting to Japanese Wikipedia is only going to confuse most people. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  20:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as redirecting an English phrase to a Japanese page is astonishing to anglophones. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 01:29, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom: this an ambiguous expression. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 08:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Typhoon Vongfong (old)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663592463|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663592463"></span>
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:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

*<span id="Typhoon Vongfong (old)">{{no redirect|1 = Typhoon Vongfong (old) }}</span> → [[:List of storms named Vongfong]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Typhoon Vongfong (old)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Typhoon Vongfong (old)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Typhoon Vongfong (old)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Typhoon_Vongfong_(old)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Typhoon Vongfong (old)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Typhoon Vongfong (old)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Typhoon Vongfong (old)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Typhoon Vongfong (old)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Typhoon Vongfong (old)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Typhoon Vongfong (old)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

No idea what the intention was here, but [[Typhoon Vongfong (old)]] should be moved back to [[Typhoon Vongfong]], and what is now at [[Typhoon Vongfong]] either deleted or merged if people want to have the history for some reason. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 06:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' after merging any histories that need it per nom. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 08:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*[[Special:Redirect/page/69574990|Typhoon Vongfong (old)]] was an attempt by {{u|Compton420}} to subvert the decision at [[Talk:Typhoon Vongfong (2020)]] and redirect "Typhoon Vongfong" to the 2020 storm. Since the current [[Special:Redirect/page/71725510|Typhoon Vongfong]] redirect was retargeted, the attempt is essentially moot. There's no significant history on either page, so just '''deleting the (old) one''' is enough. I don't have a strong attachment as creator of the now (old) redirect, so I'm alright with having that deleted instead of deleting the new redirect by Compton and moving the old redirect back in its place ''without leaving a redirect'' (which seems like a hassle). <span style="background:#ffff55">'''''[[User:Chlod|Chlod]]'''''</span>&nbsp;<small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">([[User talk:Chlod|say&nbsp;hi!]])</small> 10:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Wikipedia:Cum====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663592463|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663592463"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 13:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Wikipedia:Cum">{{no redirect|1 = Wikipedia:Cum }}</span> → [[:Help:Creation and usage of media files]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Wikipedia talk:Cum|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Cum|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Cum|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:Cum|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Cum|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:Cum]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Cum|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:Cum]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Cum|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:Cum]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

This redirect has a title that is not, but should be in FULL CAPS as per [[WP:SCNAMES]]. It was created from a page move to [[WP:CUM]] and has not been edited since then. It should be deleted because [[WP:CUM]] serves the purpose. &mdash;[[User:CrafterNova|<span style="color:#00FF00;font-variant:small-caps">'''CrafterNova'''</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:CrafterNova|<span style="color:#3366BB">'''[ TALK ]'''</span>]]&nbsp; [[Special:Contributions/CrafterNova|'''[ CONT ]''']]</sup> 05:53, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - per nom. CUM is not even a proper acronym for the target and it really just seems like someone is having a laugh at this. That being said, the lowercase is especially improper and rarely used. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  16:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - Trolling or some other unconstructive page creation. Not sure why this is being debated or what argument there could be for keeping it. The page could easily be called WP:MEDIACREATION instead, this seems like a prank. 00:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lmharding|Lmharding]] ([[User talk:Lmharding#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lmharding|contribs]]) </span>
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====Todd Phelps====
<noinclude><span id="Todd Phelps"></span><span id="Todd (Marvel Cinematic Universe)"></span></noinclude>
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19%23Todd Phelps]]

====Titania / Mary MacPherran====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663592488|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663592488"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 13:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Titania / Mary MacPherran">{{no redirect|1 = Titania / Mary MacPherran }}</span> → [[:Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: M–Z]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Titania / Mary MacPherran|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Titania / Mary MacPherran|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Titania / Mary MacPherran|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Titania_/_Mary_MacPherran|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Titania / Mary MacPherran|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Titania / Mary MacPherran]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Titania / Mary MacPherran|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Titania / Mary MacPherran]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Titania / Mary MacPherran|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Titania / Mary MacPherran]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

This is a very non-standard format, especially with the slash, which makes it an unlikely search term. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 05:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 01:23, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663592499|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663592499"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 13:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)">{{no redirect|1 = Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe) }}</span> → [[:Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: A–L]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Aneka_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

not mentioned in target article -[[User:MPGuy2824|MPGuy2824]] ([[User talk:MPGuy2824|talk]]) 04:19, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' not a notable character, so she won't have an entry on the Characters page. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 04:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' for now. Reports are that this character [https://nerdist.com/article/aneka-black-panther-wakanda-forever-comic-origins-history-explained-michaela-coel-mcu-doom-ayo/ will appear in ''Wakanda Forever''], but it is [[WP:TOOSOON]] to know whether it will be a role sufficient to merit further mention. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 04:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Even more "upcoming" no longer "upcoming"====
<noinclude><span id="All The Tropes"></span><span id="Even more "upcoming" no longer "upcoming""></span></noinclude>
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19#Even more "upcoming" no longer "upcoming"]]

====Swan Song (upcoming film)====
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">
<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558523|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558523"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Swan Song (upcoming film)">{{no redirect|1 = Swan Song (upcoming film) }}</span> → [[:Swan song (disambiguation)#Films]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Swan Song (upcoming film)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Swan Song (upcoming film)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Swan Song (upcoming film)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Swan_Song_(upcoming_film)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Swan Song (upcoming film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swan Song (upcoming film)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Swan Song (upcoming film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swan Song (upcoming film)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Swan Song (upcoming film)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swan Song (upcoming film)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

There are no "upcoming films" subjects at the target. Most likely, this redirect formerly referred to [[Swan Song (2021 Benjamin Cleary film)]] and [[Swan Song (2021 Todd Stephens film)]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 02:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
:'''Delete''', redundent. Thanks, [[User:Indagate|Indagate]] ([[User talk:Indagate|talk]]) 08:44, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. While this is still getting some views (12 in the last 30 days) this is very significantly fewer than at the start of the year and with no clear single target it's not clear that those using it will find what they were looking for. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:08, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' There's a proposal for a new speedy deletion criterion at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media]] which apply to these kinds of redirects. Input is welcome, thanks. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 15:26, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not required, and in this case ambiguous. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 10:05, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Ouzbékistan====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558533|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558533"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Ouzbékistan">{{no redirect|1 = Ouzbékistan }}</span> → [[:Uzbekistan]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Ouzbékistan|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Ouzbékistan|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Ouzbékistan|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ouzb%C3%A9kistan|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ouzbékistan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ouzbékistan]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ouzbékistan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ouzbékistan]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Ouzbékistan|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ouzbékistan]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

No affinity for the French language. [[User:FAdesdae378|FAdesdae378]] ([[User talk:FAdesdae378|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/FAdesdae378|contribs]]) 00:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' per nom. Pretty sure the other countries don't have a French spelling redirect. [[User:LilianaUwU|Liliana]] <sup>([[User talk:LilianaUwU|UwU]] / [[Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU|nya]])</sup> 00:43, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Countries with strong ties to the French language should have such redirects, e.g. [[République centrafricaine]], but not those which don't. I can find no evidence of any affinity between Uzbekistan and French. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per [[Wikipedia:Redirects in languages other than English]]. We simply cannot have directs for every page in every language. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ El cid, el campeador'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  21:01, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as Uzbekistan has no significant ties with French-speaking cultures. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 01:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)====
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">
<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558565|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558565"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)">{{no redirect|1 = Dreamland (upcoming thriller film) }}</span> → [[:Dreamland#Films]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dreamland_(upcoming_thriller_film)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

I'm not sure which films at the target page this redirect refers to, but either way, it does not seem as though there are any "upcoming film" subjects listed on the target page at the present time. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 00:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

* I have no recollection of creating this link, and am fine with deleting it. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 00:34, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*: {{Ping|BD2412}} Guess that makes two of us. I forgot all about this discussion: [[Talk:Dreamland (2019 American film)#Requested move 15 February 2019]]. I used to vaguely remember everything I do on Wikipedia, but I don't remember this at all! [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 01:53, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
**: Well there you go. Perhaps we should have some category of redirects that automatically expire and disappear after some set period of time. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 03:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
***: There's a proposal at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media]], but Thryduulf below is one of its strongest opponents. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 15:20, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
***::I oppose the speedy deletion proposal for the same reasons I oppose automatic expiry - not everything that could be deleted using it should be deleted. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 22:37, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as no longer getting any page views. I would oppose redirects automatically expiring as the length of time they are useful for is not possible to predict. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Speedy delete''' as a G7 since the redirect creator consented to deletion. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 01:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*:{{Ping|Mellohi!}} [[WP:G7]] doesn't apply per the move discussion I linked; the redirect is technically a {{Tl|R from move}}. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 01:50, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
*:To add to this: {{u|BD2412}} moved the article without leaving a redirect and then subsequently recreated it, which obfuscated the fact that it was moved. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Dreamland+%28upcoming+thriller+film%29 The logs for this page] make this a bit clearer, and shows that {{u|Cinemacriterion}} is the author (due to the fact that they titled the article that is now at [[Crisis (2021 film)]] in this fashion). --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 02:37, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Mimi (upcoming film)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558577|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558577"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Mimi (upcoming film)">{{no redirect|1 = Mimi (upcoming film) }}</span> → [[:Mimi#Arts and entertainment]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Mimi (upcoming film)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Mimi (upcoming film)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Mimi (upcoming film)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mimi_(upcoming_film)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Mimi (upcoming film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mimi (upcoming film)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mimi (upcoming film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mimi (upcoming film)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Mimi (upcoming film)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mimi (upcoming film)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

There seem to no longer be any "upcoming film" subjects at the target, leaving this redirect's disambiguator erroneous and unhelpful. Most likely, in the past, this redirect referred to [[Mimi (2021 Hindi film)]] or [[Mimi (2021 Nigerian film)]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 00:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' because it is no longer getting any page views, only 8 this year and none since May, so its utility has evidently passed. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' There's a proposal for a new speedy deletion criterion at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media]] which apply to these kinds of redirects. Input is welcome, thanks. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 15:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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====Home (upcoming TV series)====
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<includeonly>[[File:White x in red rounded square.svg|16px|link=|alt=Delete]] '''Closed discussion''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#1663558587|full discussion]]. Result was: </includeonly><noinclude><span id="1663558587"></span>
:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:The result of the discussion was </noinclude>'''delete'''<includeonly></div></includeonly><noinclude><!-- Template:Rfd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
*<span id="Home (upcoming TV series)">{{no redirect|1 = Home (upcoming TV series) }}</span> → [[:Home (disambiguation)#Series]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Home (upcoming TV series)|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Home (upcoming TV series)|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Home (upcoming TV series)|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-08-13&end=2022-09-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Home_(upcoming_TV_series)|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Home (upcoming TV series)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Home (upcoming TV series)]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Home (upcoming TV series)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Home (upcoming TV series)]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Home (upcoming TV series)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Home (upcoming TV series)]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

The target disambiguation page does not list any "upcoming TV series" subjects; all listed have already been released and/or started. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 00:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. No hits at all since November last year, unambiguously no longer needed. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 09:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' There's a proposal for a new speedy deletion criterion at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media]] which apply to these kinds of redirects. Input is welcome, thanks. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 15:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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