User:Ryulong/JAVG

Proposals for guideline changes in the WP:MOS-JA / WP:VG/GL mediation.

WP:MOS-JA change

Add the following to a currently undetermined part of the guideline

It is generally helpful to include the Hepburn romanization of Japanese text on the English Wikipedia. However, some WikiProjects may have more specific guidelines concerning the usage of the romanization on articles in their subject area. Please defer to those guidelines when composing articles in that subject area.

WP:VG/JP change

Change the following

Japanese titles

The inclusion of Japanese titles can enhance a video game article by providing additional cultural context. However, they should only be given for games of Japanese origin whose official English name differs significantly from its Japanese name. Phonetic transcriptions are, as a rule, not considered to be significantly different and thus do not warrant the inclusion of Japanese titles.

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The inclusion of Japanese titles can enhance a video game article by providing additional cultural context. The Manual of Style for Japan-related articles describes methods by which to properly format Japanese text for use on the English Wikipedia, including the use of the revised Hepburn romanization system for transliterating Japanese text into a form using the English alphabet. On articles concerning video games, there are some cases when omitting this romanization may benefit the article.

and then incorporate the following guidelines for when to and when not to include the Hepburn romanization (possibly after the current guidelines on "Japanese titles", "Translations", and "Readability issues"):

When to include or exclude the Hepburn romanization

• For stand-alone titles, names of franchises, and first titles in franchises, the full set of English title, Japanese title, and Hepburn romanization (hereby after referred to as "romaji") should be used. To format them, follow the above examples. Examples:

  Template:Nihongo title is...

  Template:Nihongo title is...

  Template:Nihongo title is...

• For sequels in a franchise that are numbered, the romaji for the original game's title is not required nor is the romaji for the numeral. Examples:

  Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3, released in Japan as PERSONA3 (ペルソナ3), is...

  Resident Evil 5, known in Japan as Template:Nihongo title, is...

  Template:Nihongo title is...

• For series within a franchise, treat the articles on the series and first title as if they are their own franchise. Examples:

  Template:Nihongo title is...

  Template:Nihongo title is...

• For sequel games that have idiosyncratic subtitles, the romaji for only the subtitle is required if the English name is a literal translation of the Japanese name. In place of the romaji for the original title, include an en dash (–). Examples:

• For sequel games that have idiosyncratic subtitles that are not literal translations from Japanese into English, the third parameter of {{nihongo}} does not need to be filled at all. The fourth parameter, however, should include a literal translation of just the Japanese subtitle. Examples:

  Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King, known in Japan as Template:Nihongo title

  The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, released as Template:Nihongo title in Japan, is...

  Castlevania: Harmony of Despair, known in Japan as Template:Nihongo title

• For sequels with idiosyncratic subtitles that utilize English text in the original Japanese title, romaji is not necessary for the English text if the words are read the same in English as they are in the Japanese title. Examples:

  Template:Nihongo title is...

  Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, often shortened and officially known in Japan as Super Mario RPG (スーパーマリオRPG), is...

• For sequels with idiosyncratic subtitles that utilize English text but are read in a way that they would normally not be in English, the romaji is not necessary, but the fourth parameter of {{nihongo}} should include the intended reading of the subtitle. Example:

  Template:Nihongo title is...