User talk:Unbroken Chain

Belated welcome!

Welcome!

Hello, Unbroken Chain, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Re: Warning messages

Take a look at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, it has a list of all warning messages and how to use them. If that's what you're referring to. Rehevkor ✉ 16:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

That specific guide line can be found at WP:RS, and you can also add "{{fact}}" to sentences to request a citation. Does that cover it? Rehevkor ✉ 17:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The article is not without issues, most of it is indeed unsourced, neutrality issues, the "Offbeat moments" section is trivial and unencyclopaedic and should be deleted, possible original research too. If fact there's no notability established and the article would be an easy candidate for deletion entirely (in my humble opinion.) Rehevkor ✉ 16:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Response on Operation Repo

Most of the criticisms you removed are unsourced; however, the removal of the "fictitious" was inappropriate, since the show's creators make no secret of the fact that it's fiction in the Dragnet "based on a true story" tradition. Edit warring is not the way to go. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing you have removed that even begins to approach libel. Your edits lead other editors to suspect that you really believe that the show is non-fiction, which is clearly not the case, even by the incredibly lax standards of so-called "reality television." (It should be noted that if a show is clearly labelled as just plain fiction, the producers will have to deal with pressure to allow their writers to become union-represented.) --Orange Mike | Talk 16:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Follow the links I put into the article recently. Then read the definition of libel.

I worked in delinquent tax collections for 6.5 years; nobody denies the strange things that go on. But that doesn't make this show "real." --Orange Mike | Talk 16:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

HellinaBucket, please do not contact me, and do not ask people to contact me on your behalf. Thank-you, VegKilla (talk) 16:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments directed toward VegKilla

RE: this.
You do not have the authority or technical permissions to block this or any user. Only administrators have the authority and capacity to do so. Since you are new here, please do not make to many assumptions as there are many more experienced editors available to handle complex situations like this. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

As the user has stated they are taking a wikibreak, I am not going to act on anything immediately. I will review later when I have the chance. Thank you for your desire to assist. Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:this

I'm not sure what attacks were made. Please provide diffs if you can. Thanks. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:this <-- this is a diff, by the way...

I don't think that counts as a personal attack, though it is a bit strident and assumes bad faith... - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I would tend to disagree with the notion that his behavior rises to the level of actual personal attacks, but you are free to bring this matter up at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Also, in the future, typing all in CAPS is akin to shouting and considered rude. I recommend that you do not express yourself in such a terse manner and limit your involvement to a dispassionate interest in the improvement of the project; worry less about what individuals' intentions are. I will involve myself more at a later time, but not right now. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 17:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

These kinds of comments are counterproductive. A resolution will not come through finger-pointing. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 17:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to leave my computer now, but Tony, give me 24 hours, and I'll have something good for you to look at.VegKilla (talk) 18:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

(and feel free to guard my talk page, if you get bored)VegKilla (talk) 18:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I've read the user's wikibreak notice and he appears to be conforming to the limitations he outlined. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 18:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I think he is complying with the spirit of it, yes. He has desisted from article editing and that process. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I have read, thank you. Reading the block notice and the comments by the other administrators suggests to me that you are not reading the policies and standards by which Wikipedians are expected to operate. Your continued inappropriate actions causes us to be distracted by you and any impropriety by any other user involved could get overlooked. You are new here. Back up, sit down, read and grasp the polices as they apply to you and your conduct and let us worry about other editors. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 20:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

WIKIPEDIA ADMIN

I'VE TRIED USING LINKS, I'VE TRIED "KEEPING COOL" AND YOU ALL SERIOUSLY LACK ANY COMPETENCE TO JUDGER THIS OR ANY OTHER CASE BY WHAT I'VE SEEN TODAYHellinaBucket (talk) 23:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Do you remember what I said my three buttons were? Delete, block, and protect. You've filled this talk page with hundreds of lines of insults without saying anything clear, polite, or useful. You've insulted everyone who responds to you, and never once said specifically what it is you want. The next message you post which can even slightly hurt the feelings of anyone will result in my personally protecting this talk page from further edits for the remainder of your block. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Do you notice, I am not asking for my block to be removed anymore? That means i find your case lacking and disagree. I'm waiting for it to expire and have not requesed further attn because i believe the response will be coordinated with incomplete and slapshod research.\ , sorry if you feel differently, I was blocked for continuing to contribute where I wasn't wanted, and right now i have no use for you. Now i can claim you were harassing me (which i what happened to me) or I can just ask what is so threatening about my words? I have an opinion and exhibited it on my talk page not yours. Censorship isn't cool why would you want to censor what i say if you are sure you are right? (a question for thought, and you might feel the same way if you tried to do the things i did and then get consequenced needlessly)HellinaBucket (talk) 13:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

"Slapshod" hurt my feelings. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if the saying the truth hurts would apply? On a serious note unless VegKilla starts his crap again I will leave the situation alone. I do not like the lack of quality standards that lead to my blockin the first place or the censorship and game playing exhibited above and will therefore say no more on the matter unless further provoked.HellinaBucket (talk) 03:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Prediction

I predict that, since you "don't get it," that is, the real reason why you're having problems and getting blocked, that you will continue to harrass and disrupt the process right into an indefinite ban for yourself.

Prove me wrong. Stop, reflect on the interaction you've had thusfar, and try and conceive of the possibility that, in terms of behavior and editing processes, so many administrators are probably more in line with the community agreed-upon consensus policies than a newer user such as yourself. We are trying to help you by outlining the reasonableness behind the policies. They are intended to facilitate the cooperation of a widely diverse group of contributors, each like yourself with strong opinions and ideas about how things should be done and how information should be presented. If you buck against them, you cause needless disruption and violate the standards everyone else is expected to abide by. Please think about that and prove my prediction wrong. - CobaltBlueTony™  _talk 14:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

My prediction is you will continue to not work through issues completely with a whole picture. PROVE ME WRONG'''HellinaBucket (talk) 03:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I only say that because you do not assume good faith and post it in an obvious way. So we both disapoint each other. VegKilla will not bde bothered unless he starts doing the same things. In which case I hope Admin do something more helfull to diffusing a situation then tuanting like above. This will be my final post to CobaltTony regarding the matter unless further provoked.HellinaBucket (talk) 03:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding references

Thanks for the edits you made! Adding references can take a little time to figure out. The easiest ones use the <ref> tag: just add this code:

<ref>Material to go in footnote.</ref>

You can learn about more complex options at Wikipedia:Citing sources. Again, Welcome! Jokestress (talk) 05:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Contribution histories

Hi! Welcome back from your block! It's convenient to have access to other users' contribution histories, isn't it? There are lots of useful things a person can do with that information. It makes me a little uncomfortable that you're using mine to comment on my unblock declines, though. For one thing, as you know from reviewing her contributions, User:Gaffers, with whom you are expressing sympathy, is simply vandalizing the encyclopedia by adding her friends' names to the article about her high school and tagging policy pages for deletion. Your expressed with that she 'gets her problem solved' is confusing, since her 'problem' is that she has been making edits like this. You complimented me on reviewing your contributions before I commented on your unblock request; I hope you'll also review the contributions of people I've reviewed before you decide to comment on theirs. Thanks! -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:36, 6 May 2009 (UTC)