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Evidence presented by ChrisO

Narrow responsibility for articles

1) The development of the "allegations" articles has been dominated by a small number of editors, a significant number of whom are actively involved in editing Allegations of Israeli apartheid or its talk page. (The names of the article creators are bolded.)

• Allegations of American apartheid - 22% of edits by Mackan79, 19.5% by Urthogie.
• Allegations of Australian apartheid - 47% of edits by Urthogie, 26% by Ashley Y
• Allegations of Brazilian apartheid - 48% of edits by Jayjg, 8% by Lothar of the Hill People, 6% by Urthogie
• Allegations of Chinese apartheid - 31.5% of edits by Jossi, 20% by Jayjg, 12.5% by Urthogie, 6% by Ideogram
• Allegations of French apartheid - 39.5% by Jayjg, 16.5% by Cerejota, 12% by NickDumZ, 7% by Lothar of the Hill People, 4% by Urthogie
• Allegations of Islamic apartheid - 55% of edits by Urthogie, 7% by Sefringle, 9% by Mackan79
• Allegations of Jordanian apartheid - 30% of edits by Cerejota, 25% by Chesdovi, 15% by Bleh999
• Allegations of Northern Irish apartheid - 39% of edits by ChrisO, 19% by Urthogie, 8% by Cordless Larry, 8% by Victor falk, 6.5% by Cerejota, 3% by Theo F
• Allegations of Puerto Rican apartheid - 42% of edits by Cerejota, 35% of edits by Bleh999, 15% by Urthogie, 7% by Victor falk
• Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid - 22.5% of edits by Jayjg, 19% by Bless sins, 10% by Lothar of the Hill People, 9% by Victor falk, 8% by Bigglove, 4.5% by Urthogie

Sefringle's statements

2) Sefringle nominated Allegations of Israeli apartheid for its sixth and most recent AfD and has participated in the AfDs on the French and Jordanian apartheid articles, voting to keep both. In discussing why the other "allegations of apartheid" articles had been created, he stated:

"You clearly don't understand why we created other apartheid articles. All allegations of apartheid articles are meant to antagonize people of that culture; the Israel one included. They are all POV forks. Their existance on wikipedia is proof that WP:NPOV does not apply to article titles or afd's. Since these articles cannot be balanced on their own, the only way to balance them is to create similar articles about other countries, thus making the attack page have less effect since country X isn't the only one being alleged of being an apartheid state. There is nothing encyclopediac about accusing somebody or some culture/country/religion of apartheid. It is all an attempt to push a POV." [1]

Similarly, in voting to keep Allegations of French apartheid he stated:

"either keep this one or delete them all per Humus Sapians. These is an obvious POV fork. It is very POV to have articles accusing some countries of apartheid while not allowing a similar attacks against others. Allegations of apartheid is an attack against that country, and cannot be written in a neutral manner. The closest thing we can do to make it neutral is allow the allegations against every country. This is the only way to balance it out." [2]

Diametrically-opposed positions and non-policy-based block voting

3) A number of Israel-focused editors have been involved in many of the AfDs on "allegations of apartheid" articles. Notably, they have systematically voted to keep them while voting to delete the older article Allegations of Israeli apartheid (AoIa). They have often based their opposition to AoIa on general principles which they have then set aside for the other articles. The rationales have invariably been non-policy-based, usually invoking the "all or nothing" principle - which has no basis in policy - to tie the other articles' fate to that of AoIa. The following examples illustrate this pattern of behaviour and the block voting dynamic that has been apparent in these AfDs:

• 6SJ7

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (Fourth nomination)	Delete	"the article should not exist"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"If I had to boil it down to one sentence, the problem is that the article is inherently POV and its purpose is to have an attack on Israel in the title of an article."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"per what I said a few minutes ago on the AfD about Saudi Arabia, and per the comments here by Mantanmoreland, Urthogie and Jayjg"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"per Tewfik, tickle me and others; and my comments on the last few AfD's in this series"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"in order to maintain consistency with other articles, pending a "global" resolution of the issue of "apartheid" articles, as discussed in the Arbitration Committee decision almost a year ago."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"I don't think any of these "apartheid" articles for individual countries should exist, but one country should not be singled out. Let's have consistency."

• Armon

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"Zleitzen is correct in challenging the notion that just because something is sourced, it meets policy - WP is not a soapbox"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"Properly sourced, notable, and entirely consistent with the other articles in the "series"."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"yep [nomination] is frivolous"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"The article is properly sourced, and is perfect alignment with the other similar articles."

• Humus sapiens

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"Delete this non-encyclopedic WP:SOAPBOX."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of American apartheid	Keep	"(2nd choice - as long as we keep other Allegations of apartheid in X articles)"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"if other Allegations of apartheid in X series are kept"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"The same pro/con arguments should be applied across all "Allegations of apartheid" series. Consistency please."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"and speedy keep all future frivolous AFD from this nominator bent on disrupting WP"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"all Allegations of X apartheid or Delete them all. Per NPOV, no preferential treatment."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"Of the whole unfortunate "Allegations of apartheid" series, why remove the one where "the apartheid is starkest"? Consistency please."

• IronDuke

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"I think it's time for all the apartheid pseudo-articles to go. The usable material here can be merged into relevant articles like, for example, filthy Jew."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"With a caveat: perhaps there could/should be a discussion about deleting all articles that deal with the subject of Allegations of Apartheid against X, but what we may not do is cherry-pick among them; that creates an inherent POV."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"As I have !voted before, keep all or delete all articles on this subject. This article has plenty of sources and, per Gzuckier, we could meet some objections by renaming it to Chinese Apartheid."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"As I have said elsewhere, I generally do not like "Allegations of" articles (or articles that amount ot that even when not so-called). However, what I'd like would be cherry-picking which allegations are "true" and deleting the rest. If someone wanted to put all of these articles up for an AfD, I'd be willing to vote yes."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"As I have !voted before, keep all or delete all articles on this subject. However, of all the articles, this one is easily one of the strongest."

• Jayjg

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"This article was conceived in bad faith, nurtured by POV-pushers and propagandists, and protected by apathy and ignorance. It is inherently POV and unencylopedic, yet people have insisted on keeping it on the flimsiest of pretexts"
Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Apartheid	comment	"In my view, and that of many others, the only real solution for the "Allegations of Israeli apartheid" POV-monstrosity is outright deletion, salt the earth, etc. The article is an embarrassment to Wikipedia, a political propaganda-fest that a good encyclopedia (like Britannica) would never put up with."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"Article lists notable accusations regarding a significant phenomenon in Brazil, and the Allegations of apartheid article is currently deleted. More material undoubtedly exists, and could be added to flesh out the stub, but we don't delete stubs simply because they are stubs"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"Well sourced, well written, relevant information, presented in a neutral and encyclopedic tone"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"A well referenced article about a broadly known phenomenon."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"Article is well written, encyclopedic, and uses high quality sources"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"Well sourced, notable issue."

• Jossi

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid	Delete	"we do not need articles based on an allegation or based on a viewpoint. Issues related to Israeli internal policy, society, culture, etc, can be explored in the related articles."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of American apartheid	Keep	"as for all other articles with similar titles "Allegations of [your favorite country] [your favorite issue]","
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"as per Jayjg"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"all "allegations of XXX apartheid" or delete them all"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"f not, delete all similar articles, as per John above"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"together with all other "Allegations of XXXX apartheid", or better, delete them all"

• Leifern

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid	Delete	"Allegations of Israel human rights violations do merit articles (though one can always wonder the paucity of such articles about other states and regimes who do much worse), but the term "apartheid" is a rhetorical device that distracts from the real issue."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"if one set of allegations is notable, so should this"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"I have many reservations about including specific instances of political rhetoric as articles, but if the consensus is that these are notable topics, then this article should be included"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"well-documented allegation. Dubious nomination."

• Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid	Delete	"This article should have been deleted long ago"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"This article is one of the best examples of an article which should not have been created."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"how many times do we have to go over this"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"How many times?"

• Sefringle

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (Fourth nomination)	Delete	"POV fork"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"Clear POV fork"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"It is very POV to have articles accusing some countries of apartheid while not allowing a similar attacks against others. Allegations of apartheid is an attack against that country, and cannot be written in a neutral manner. The closest thing we can do to make it neutral is allow the allegations against every country. This is the only way to balance it out"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Islamic apartheid	Keep	"considering the existance of Allegations of Israeli apartheid or delete all allegations of apartheid articles"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Jordanian apartheid	Keep	"Reguardless of what you think of the sourcing of the Allegations of Israeli apartheid, it is a POV fork, like all allegations of apartheid articles are. It is even more POV to allow the allegation on some articles but not others. This seems like an attempt to delete all allegations of apartheid articles except the Israel one"

• Shamir1

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid	Delete	"it has no basis here, it is just pushing propaganda, and does not show an accurate history."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of American apartheid	Keep	(no reason given)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	(no reason given)

• Tewfik

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid	Delete	"any legitimate concerns about human rights violations should be dealt with in the neutral article on the subject, without all of the problems inherent in a title like this one"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"and expand this article. There seems to be very much material online alone"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid	Keep	"Whatever problems editors say exists with the titling is the same one that exists throughout the "series" and should be dealt with comprehensively, and not piecemeal."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"any problems with the titling etc. should be dealt with comprehensively among the entire series, and not piecemeal on just one or two"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"per Jossi" ("keep together with all other "Allegations of XXXX apartheid", or better, delete them all.")
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid	Keep	"Whatever problem one may have with the titling should be resolved comprehensively, and not dealt with piecemeal."

• Tickle me

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)	Delete	"There are allegations of Wikipedia being an encyclopedia -- judging by this breed of articles, they're clearly unfounded"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of American apartheid	Keep	"Provided the allegations series is encyclopaedic, and most think so, this article is, too."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid	Keep	"per Jayjg, else merge to Allegations of apartheid, if it gets undeleted."
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba	Keep	"nom is frivolous, again. Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Apartheid is the place to deal with this"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid	Keep	"per Jossi." ("Keep together with all other "Allegations of XXXX apartheid", or better, delete them all.")

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