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 I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]! Please [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your name]] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out [[Wikipedia:Questions]], ask me on [[user talk:Simonkoldyk|my talk page]], or ask your question and then place <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[:Category:Wikipedians looking for help|helpme]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code> before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --[[User:Simonkoldyk|Simonkoldyk]] 00:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
-==Coral Smith==
-Hi.  Please stop reverting the Coral Smith article.  The version you favor is filled with material that is unsourced, poorly written, and/or could be construed as a violation of NPOV.  The version to which I have edited it does not introduce any such material.  Among the examples:
-*The Intro properly refers to Smith as a reality tv personality, which is accurate, since she has appeared on reality shows other than ''The Real World''.  For this reason, it summarizes who she is more inclusively than the version you favor.
-*The passages dealing with her conflict with Mike Mizanin are poorly written. For example, this sentence: ''"During Smith's season on The Real World, she came into conflict with Mike Mizanin over his stated on camera view that African Americans need not be well schooled because they are inherently dumb/ignorant and cannot retain information therefore they can not be taught, making any attempt at other than basic education a waste of time and energy."'' is not a proper sentence.  It is a badly written run-on sentence.  Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of writing a sentence knows this.
-*In addition, the assertions in this passage are '''untrue''', as he never made any statements during those discussions about "wisdom" or "innocence".
-*The sentence dealing with Smith's continued relationships with her ''Real World'' castmates does not indicate a source.
-*There is no reason for "Back to New York" to be a red wikilink.
-*The passage''"Smith's latest reality show deputed on the Fox network in January 2007 on Burton Roberts’ series Camp Reality"'' does not make sense.  How can her latest reality show be '''"on"''' another series?  Is it her series, or someone else's?
-*There is no source provided for the assertion that Smith is "best friends" with Melissa Howard.
-If you disagree with any of this, as you indicated in your last Edit Summary, then please discuss the matter with me on that article's Talk Page.  Do not simply revert it arbitrarily and make unsubstantiated accusations that my edit has "unsourced" material.  If you continue to engage in edit warring like this without providing Good Faith arguments to justify your edits, this may be construed as vandalism, and you may be blocked for it. Thanks. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] 00:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-:Hi.  In your last Edit Summary, you asserted, '''"find sources / this has been sourced"'''. I'm not certain what you mean by the words "find sources", but the material in question has '''not''' been sourced.  When material [[Wikipedia: Citing Sources|is properly sourced on Wikipedia]], it means that the source for the particular passages is explicitly mentioned in or at the end of the passage.  This is not the case with that article, and I provided numerous examples of this just above.  You did not refute any of these examples, or even respond to them.  Moreover, you did not respond my challenge to your accusation that '''my''' edit contained unsourced material, which makes it seem as if you are merely attempting to be uncivil, [[Wikipedia: Civility|another violation of WP policy]].  Again, please do not arbitrarily revert the article.  As you can see, someone else has already undid your reversion, and you can be assured that others will do the same if you continue in this manner.  Let's work together to improve the article according to WP guidelines, okay?  Thanks. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] 05:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-::Hi.  It is becoming increasingly clear that you either do not understand Wikipedia's policies, or have no interest in learning them or abiding them.  Please understand that your activities, including arbitrarily reverting well-made edits, telling other people to "stop reverting. You find sources", and blanking out your Talk Page, is not within the spirit of Wikipedia's policies on collaboration, and if you continue to do this, you will be disciplined for it.  It is not for you to tell other people to "find sources", nor the responsibility of others to do this for you.  Nor is it your place to tell others to "stop reverting", unless you can demonstrate why your edits should remain, nor is it appropriate to tell people not to add material to your Talk Page.  Your Talk Page belongs to Wikipedia.  Not you.  I will be alerting administrators to this behavior of yours.  Thanks. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] 07:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-'''I'm writing this message here because it seems you have had a serious talking to by more users than just my self (up above) about adding unsourced contributions to wikipedia.''' I have not had any admonishments from others about adding unsourced info.  If you insist that I have, then please provide examples to illustrate this.
-'''The Coral Smith info you are adding into the article is unsourced and I have told you that repeatedly.'''  I have not added any info ''at all'' to the Coral Smith article, nor have you bothered to establish otherwise.  All I've done is edit the article by removing unsourced/POV material, or reorganizing it.   If you insist on this accusation (which you've made exactly once, not "repeatedly"), then I will respond in the same way I did before: Please provide examples.  Making an accusation is meaningless unless you can back it up.
-'''stop adding it in and being so irritating''' Okay. Please give me an example of where I've been "irritating".  As far as I know, I've been nothing but polite and friendly to you. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] 09:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-And btw, you've violated the [[Wikipedia:3RR|3RR Rule]].  You'll be contacted shortly by someone who will be blocking you for your behavior, and your vandalism to the article will be reverted.  Have a nice day. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]]
-==Edit summaries==
-<p>[[Image:Information_icon.svg|20px|left]] Hi there. When [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|editing an article on Wikipedia]] there is a small field labeled "[[Help:Edit summary|Edit summary]]" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:</p><br> [[Image:Edit_Summary-2.png|Edit summary text box]]<!--
---><p>The text written here will appear on the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] page, in the [[Help:Page history|page revision history]], on the [[m:Help:Diff|diff page]], and in the [[meta:Help:Watching pages|watchlists]] of users who are watching that article. See [[m:Help:Edit summary]] for full information on this feature.</p><!--
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-Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field.  If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field - please fill in your new section's name instead.  Thank you. <!-- Template:Summary -->  -[[User:NatureBoyMD|NatureBoyMD]] 00:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-== "Completed" and "ongoing" TV programs ==
-Hello,
-Please feel free to join the discussion on this topic here: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#.22Completed.22_and_.22ongoing.22_series_OR_User:Loansince]] -[[User:NatureBoyMD|NatureBoyMD]] 01:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-:Maybe you should read [[Wikipedia:Consensus]] to get a better idea why you can't just do what you want on wikipedia, even if you think it makes Wikipedia better. I have reverted your recent "completed"/"ongoing" edits. Please be aware that continued acting against consensus may result in blocks, and let's not go there please. Use the discussion linked above to make your case before you make any more such controversial edits.&ndash; [[User:Sgeureka|sgeureka]] <sup>[[User_talk:Sgeureka|t]]•c</sup> 07:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-==Coral Smith==
-{{{icon|[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] }}}Please do not assume [[WP:OWN|ownership of articles]]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:Coral Smith|&nbsp;such as [[:Coral Smith]]}}. If you aren't willing to allow your contributions to be edited extensively or be redistributed by others, please do not submit them. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-own2 --> [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] 12:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-*I have reverted your deletion from the Coral Smith article as a [[WP:POINT]] violation. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] 13:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
-==Edit warring and the three revert rule==
-Please be aware that Wikipedia has a [[WP:3RR|three revert rule]] which means that editors can't undo another editor's work more than three times in any 24-hour period. You have broken the rule on [[Coral Smith]]. Edit-warring and revert warring is damaging to Wikipedia and people who break the three revert rule can be [[WP:BP|blocked]] from editing in order to allow them to cool down.
-Because you are a [[WP:BITE|new user]], I don't intend to block you. However, do not rely on being shown leniency in future. Wikipedia works by discussion between editors of differing viewpoints in order to agree a consensus, with everyone being committed to improving the quality of the encyclopaedia. Please continue to constructively discuss your edits and remember to comment on what other people say rather than commenting on them as people. [[User:Sam Blacketer|Sam Blacketer]] 15:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)