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Ulver

Hello

Thanks for your nice words.

I like their latest release but Ulver is by no mean electronic art music. The guy who wrote that is completely mistaken. Ulver is nowhere near to that kind of music.

Electronic art music refer to stuffs like electroacoustic, that is to say composers like Stockhausen, Xenakis, Pierre Henri or more recently Horaccio Vaggione. Electronic art music is actually one of the branches of modern music which descends from historical Classical music even though it rejected most of its heritage. Electronic art music implies notably very high knowledge in physics, accoustics and sound deconstruction. Which are not things Ulver is concerned about.

Anyway there's often a confusion concerning the meaning of popular music and art music. Most particularly about fans of experimental rock and metal who use the word "art music" in a different sense as what it is normally meant to refers. As Art music actually refers to Serious music or erudite music which implies advanced theorical considerations and deconstruction and implies a written tradition as opposed to oral or recorded transmission. But experimental fans use it only as a term of " artistic trueness" by opposition to commercial music. Hence a big confusion in the comprehension of the term.

As for the term popular music, as said in the heavy metal music's discussion page, there's a big confusion about the meaning of the word of "popular" concerning the term "popular music". Here It doesn't mean that it is “famous” or “trendy” as many understand it. Basically the term “popular” was coined by a classical aristocratic elitist view .“Popular” in that meaning just implies that music comes from the average population, the lower class as opposed to the upper social class who listened to “serious music”. Even though that social cleavage doesn't make sense anymore. The music categories the words refer to are still valid. In this meaning music may be popular music without being commercial or famous or whatever.

Greetings :)Frédérick Duhautpas 21:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frédérick Duhautpas 21:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Electronic art music implies notably very high knowledge in physics, accoustics and sound deconstruction. Which are not things Ulver is concerned about.

How do you know this? As far as I can tell, the music of Ulver on this album is highly concerned with accoustics and sound deconstruction. How about you coming up with another genre we could use on the album? :)

I tried to look for something more fitting, but electronic art music was the closest I could find (minmalist music is treated on your own talk page). -cun 22:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[User:Frédérick Duhautpas|Frédérick Duhautpas]] 21:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
+:''Electronic art music implies notably very high knowledge in physics, accoustics and sound deconstruction. Which are not things Ulver is concerned about.''
+:How do you know this? As far as I can tell, the music of Ulver on this album is highly concerned with accoustics and sound deconstruction. How about you coming up with another genre we could use on the album? :)
+:I tried to look for something more fitting, but electronic art music was the closest I could find (minmalist music is treated on your own talk page). -[[User_talk:Cun|'''cun''']] 22:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)