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== Thank you! == |
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[[Image:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - A Little Coaxing (1890).jpg|thumb|180px|Let's get hugged!]]For all the wonderful, lovely birdie-barnstars you've gifted me, I must repay you somehow... so I've decided to give you a hug for each of them! Let's get started... hug number one your way! More to follow, Johnny! :) Love, [[User:Phaedriel|<b><font color="#009900">P<font color="#00AA00">h<font color="#00BB00">a<font color="#00CC00">e<font color="#00DD00">d</font>r</font>i</font>e</font>l</b>]] - 21:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Oh man, John. You are one lucky dog. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 18:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Indeed I am. *swoon* <!-- she's such a sweetie --> <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 02:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Your wins == |
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Please tell me about your wins as an OSA volunteer.--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 17:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:If I had any clue what you were talking about, I'd love to. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 17:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Ah, Office of Special Affairs. Sorry to disappoint you, I really have '''no relationship''' with CoS at all. Not personal, not professional, and not even a passing interest. Though it does tend to demonstrate the extreme nature of your position, and your ignorance of the situation, when you make such accusations based on what can only be called ''conspiracy theories''. <small>AGF violation</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 17:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::'''note:''' F541 added the "AGF violation" to my signature above. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lsi_john&diff=prev&oldid=143828541 here] <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 21:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Your violation of [[WP:AGF]] spilled over onto a discussion I was having with Jpgordon. You sure came across as a cofs member to me, but you state that you are not. Again, you flagrantly show YOUR extreme violations of [[WP:AGF]].--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 21:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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By the way, please explain why you so vehemently deny any connection to the cofs, when that was never an issue.--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 21:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Because it has been an issue for the anti-scientologists who can't believe that a non-scientologist wouldn't condemn Scientology on-sight. And I have clarified it on several occasions in several discussion pages in conversations where you were involved (no I won't look for diffs). We're done here. Thanks. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 21:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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No we are not done here. Please explain what your quote here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJpgordon&diff=143777689&oldid=143772862] is about:"So, if we're tossing around AGF and NPA accusations, I'd say you just caught two yourself. Personally I think your conspiracy mindset is amusing. I'm really not the droid you're looking for, though I doubt I've convinced you."--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 21:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Another point, I am NOT a "anti-scientologist". I work with scientologists all the time.--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 21:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Ok. Since you insist: |
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:#NPA - you called me a Scientologist. I suspect you'd be offended if someone confused you with a Scientologist. So, I must assume that you've resorted to the lowest and most base insult you can find. I suppose I should have included WP:CIVIL. |
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Lsi john, that comment makes no sense. In the previous post, I told you that I am not a "anti-scientologist" and work with scientologists all the time. Clearly, you persist in violating [[WP:AGF]] with me. Stop it.--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 22:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:#AGF - My userpage clearly identifies me as a Christian. As far as I know, Christianity and Scientology are mutually exclusive, though I'm not the Scientology expert that you are so I could be wrong. Additionally, I've stated in numerous places that I have no relationship with Scientology and I'm not a Scientologist. Therefore your post, accusing me of being an OSA volunteer, means that you are calling me a liar and assuming bad faith about my previous posts. |
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That clear enough? Good.. And, yes, we are done here. Further posts will be redacted. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 22:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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No, we are still not done and if you wish to violate [[WP:AGF]] again, you can keep redacting all you want. I did not ''call you'' a scientologist. I assumed that you were. No, I did NOT read your user page. No, I did NOT call you a liar and assume bad faith about any of your posts. On the flip side, you have violated [[WP:AGF]] with me quite a few times, even in this discussion. I am telling you to stop that.--[[User:Fahrenheit451|Fahrenheit451]] 22:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Second request: Please stop posting to my talkpage. Thank you. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 22:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Classic "bait and bitch". I love it. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 18:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==okay?== |
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Is everything alright here? Lsijohn I was watching your user and talk pages for vandalism and I just saw this discussion - it seems to be getting pretty intense, so if you need any help feel free to ask me!--<small>[[User:Danielfolsom|<span style="color: #CCFF99; background: #003300">daniel]][[User_talk:Danielfolsom|<span style="color:#FFCCCC; background:#660000">folsom]]</span></span></small> 22:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Yeah it seems to be a pretty strange situation - the fact that his userpage says essentially any scientologist that comes to edit wikipedia is only there to promote his religion with lies - well it kinda scares me, ironic that he accused you of violating [[WP:AGF]]. I almost think he might be a "T" word - especially with this randomness: "You sure came across as a cofs member to me, but you state that you are not. Again, you flagrantly show YOUR extreme violations of [[WP:AGF]]". I think your absolutely right that [[WP:SHUN|ignoring]] might be the best way to go about it - '''but''' if he does keep harassing you and you go to some kinda RFC or the admin's noticeboard - please tell me because I'll be happy to back you up.--<small>[[User:Danielfolsom|<span style="color: #CCFF99; background: #003300">daniel]][[User_talk:Danielfolsom|<span style="color:#FFCCCC; background:#660000">folsom]]</span></span></small> 23:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Sent a reply email--<small>[[User:Danielfolsom|<span style="color: #CCFF99; background: #003300">daniel]][[User_talk:Danielfolsom|<span style="color:#FFCCCC; background:#660000">folsom]]</span></span></small> 01:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== A new userbox for you == |
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HaHa.. indeed. Does that make my wife mudder? <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 19:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== More hugs! == |
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[[Image:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - Two Sisters (1901).jpg|thumb|180px|More and more hugs for Johnny!!]]I promised you many hugs, and the wonderful gestures and beautiful wishes you've kept gifting me only reinforce my decision, Johnny! :) Love, [[User:Phaedriel|<b><font color="#009900">P<font color="#00AA00">h<font color="#00BB00">a<font color="#00CC00">e<font color="#00DD00">d</font>r</font>i</font>e</font>l</b>]] - 12:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==Selective Deletes== |
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It seems that only selective parts of conversations related to the current arbcom are being removed from some users talkpages. The conversations where they discuss theories of other editors' conduct is permitted to stay. However any suggestions that those conversations or theories are improper or incorrect are quickly reverted. Perhaps in an effort to cover up complaints? |
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When an objection is raised regarding the deleted posts, they tag-team the person lodging the complaint and summarily delete the the conversation. It certainly appears to be similar to the 'circumstantial evidence' they used to publicly accuse other editors of misconduct. Based on logic presented by them, it appears this may suggest MEAT, SOCKS, offline collusions, BITE and Tag-Teaming. |
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To reach these conclusions, you simply apply their own logic against their own actions. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 00:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Durova, as an experienced admin, I will follow your lead. Since you deem it appropriate to loosely toss around spurious charges about individuals, you have demonstrated that you feel it is appropriate behavior. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 01:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==Question== |
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Durova, you recently blocked someone and then requested a review on AN/I. From what I saw, the response was resoundingly ''against'' your block. Having asked for, and received, feedback that your block was inappropriate, I'm curious if you ever apologized to the editor you inappropriately blocked? |
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Just to help you understand, this is an example of the behavior I've been objecting to since we met at CSN. You seem to only half-read what is written. You make hasty decisions. And you don't seem to ''ever'' back off from your position or consider that it might have been inappropriate. Even when you are resoundingly criticized at a thread you opened, you defend your decision and ask that the thread be closed, without any sign of regret or reconsideration for your position. |
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I am not going to try to analyze why you can't accept that you're ever wrong, but you might want to. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 16:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:John, in between "the block is good" and "the block is completely groundless" there's an area where administrators sometimes disagree. I opened my action for review (without any prompting) because I knew this instance occupied the middle ground. The administrator who reversed my block did so without prejudice, yet I chose not to reapply it. There's a lot of history behind that situation and if you dig deep enough you'll find much better explanations for my actions. |
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:I opened a second AN thread yesterday about my conduct in another case and responses have been unanimous in support, yet I see you choose not to mention that. One of those supporters is an editor I had investigated and banned, then later reinstated. If you look through the previous arbitration cases where I've participated you'll see times when I've struck through evidence and reversed my position. Sometimes I've done that at the request of editors I'd submitted evidence against and in one instance I even awarded one of those editors a barnstar after arbitration closed. I'd like to give the Resilient Barnstar to more people - I have an open offer to that effect. |
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:I am not going to analyze why you cherry pick evidence to support your preexisting paradigm, but you might want to. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 16:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Durova, you give us plenty of examples of how often you're right, and how many essay's you've written, and how many arbcom's you've single handedly resolved, and how many guidelines and policies you personally created, what your edit count is. Even off-wiki you brag about your coaching skills and your edit-counts. There is no reason for me to talk about things you've done right. Speaking of which, in all the accusations you've made against me, how many times have you cited the compliments I've received on my talkpage? I think your protesting is a bit of WP:KETTLE? Using your logic, perhaps you're hiding something? |
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::It's your ego, lack of humility, and attitude that are the issue, not the times you've been right. I never said you were incompetent, just arrogant and self-serving. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 16:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::In all seriousness, go through your edit history and count the number of times you have 'proclaimed' or 'bragged' about your successes and accomplishments. I did for June and it wasn't pretty. I didn't do the statistics, but you proclaimed your own 'works' and 'accomplishments' to the exclusion of anyone else's. I suggest you take time and read through your edits and see if you can begin to understand why I have such disdain. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 16:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::John, these remarks aren't helpful at all. Please recognize that no matter how frustrated or upset you are, trying to force-feed [[humble pie]] to someone only paints ''you'' in a poor light. I find that a few days away from an upsetting situation can work wonders. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] 17:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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*Durova then Removed the conversation from her talkpage in order to keep her reputation shiny. |
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==Unhelpful== |
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Yes, Durova, any constructive criticism [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Durova&curid=3018821&diff=147029373&oldid=147027782] of you is unhelpful, until you're ready to receive it. It's interesting how quickly you revert any conversation which strongly opposes your decisions or actions. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 17:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Supervision proposal - query == |
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Heya, |
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Can you take a look at [[User_talk:FT2/Article_supervision#What_supervision_is_not|#What_supervision_is_not]] and add a thought? More eyeballs sought :) Thanks! [[user:FT2|FT2]] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">([[User_talk:FT2|Talk]] | [[Special:Emailuser/FT2|email]])</span></sup> 20:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==Hi John!== |
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Uhhh... I found the userbox that you were looking for. It was made by a user named [[User:UBX|UBX]]... |
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Tada! |
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{{User:UBX/No Denomination}} |
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<br><br> |
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I had no idea this existed until I found it! To place this on your user page put: |
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<nowiki>{{User:UBX/No Denomination}}</nowiki> |
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--[[User:Angel David|Angel David]] ('''[[User Talk:Angel David|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Angel David|contribs]]''') 19:51, 24 August 2007 ('''U'''ser '''T'''alker '''C'''ontributor) |
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Thanks. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 22:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==Rhode Island Red/Juice Plus== |
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appox. 50 tedious, minor and opinionated edits in 48 hours from Rhode Island Red, now that all the moderation and review failed, despite being directly told to stop editing this page--just couldn't stay away could you? Is Wiki/JuicePlus now back to ownership/dictatorship of one editor? Not an attack, an obesrvation. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.130.211.228|70.130.211.228]] ([[User talk:70.130.211.228|talk]]) 23:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/COFS]] == |
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The above arbitration case has recently concluded. [[User:COFS|COFS]] ''(now [[User:Shutterbug|Shutterbug]])'' is asked to refrain from recruiting editors whose editing interests are limited to [[Scientology]]-related topics. [[User:Anynobody|Anynobody]] is prohibited from harassing [[User:Justanother|Justanother]], and Justanother is urged to avoid interesting himself in Anynobody's actions. All Scientology-related articles are placed on [[Wikipedia:Article probation|article probation]]. For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 03:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:Amusing, if not entertaining. Asking someone to refrain from doing something when there is no evidence they ever did it in the first place... well... at least the Anynobody part was productive.. even if the Committee did need help getting to it. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 12:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::Hullo, John... Nice to see you around the place, again. I would comment that, in my recent experience of acting in my admin capacity, that a few people equate not being anti Scientology as tantamount to being pro-Scientology (and the presumption that that is a BAD THING). It appears to be a subject where neutrality is just a concept, to be applied by other people ''to'' other people. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] 19:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Indeed. ;) <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 20:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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== SUSPECTED SOCK ACCOUNT == |
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To whom it may concern: [[User:Curt Wilhelm VonSavage]] is a suspected sock account for [[User:Smee]] aka [[User:Smeelgova]]. |
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Any casual investigation reveals the obvious. |
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Normally an ALT-Account would not be subject to such identification, should the editor wish to keep them separate. However, by editing the same articles, the accounts can now be considered, and treated as, [[WP:SOCKPUPPET]]. |
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<small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 01:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Please stop recreating the [[User:Smee]] page. What's the point? I'll delete-protect it if I have to, but why put me to the bother? Please just leave it. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 00:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC). |
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:Huh? re-creating? i put a redirect. is that a problem? i thought it was a bit odd that it (the redirect) disappeared and i assumed the servers were desynched (so I edited the redirect again). Now it makes sense. heh. sorry. <small>Peace.</small>[[User:Lsi john|Lsi]] [[User talk:Lsi john|john]] 00:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC) |
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