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#<font color=#00A86B>[[User:Android79|<small>A</small>&#1080;<small>D</small>&#1103;<small>01D</small>]]</font><font color=#B87333>[[User talk:Android79|<small>TALK</small>]]</font><font color=#0047AB>[[Special:Emailuser/Android79|<small>EMAIL</small>]]</font> July 4, 2005 15:58 (UTC)
#<font color=#00A86B>[[User:Android79|<small>A</small>&#1080;<small>D</small>&#1103;<small>01D</small>]]</font><font color=#B87333>[[User talk:Android79|<small>TALK</small>]]</font><font color=#0047AB>[[Special:Emailuser/Android79|<small>EMAIL</small>]]</font> July 4, 2005 15:58 (UTC)
# [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 4 July 2005 17:05 (UTC). To let you know, some images on the Commons have the same file name as on here, so sometimes, links do not have to be changed.
# [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 4 July 2005 17:05 (UTC). To let you know, some images on the Commons have the same file name as on here, so sometimes, links do not have to be changed.
#[[User:Oliverkeenan|Oliver Keenan]] July 4, 2005 18:58 (UTC)
#[[User:Oliverkeenan|Oliver Keenan]] July 4, 2005 18:58 (UTC)
#[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 4 July 2005 23:48 (UTC)
#[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 4 July 2005 23:48 (UTC)
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===Oppose===
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# I object primarily because the wording of this item was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Proposal&diff=next&oldid=18127034 changed] by [[User:Radiant!]] without discussion prior to this vote being opened. Also, images moved to Commons may be GFDL violations because they were copied without revision histories, or they may be later found to be ineligible for inclusion on Commons meaning we lose everything. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 4 July 2005 18:56 (UTC)
# I object primarily because the wording of this item was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Proposal&diff=next&oldid=18127034 changed] by [[User:Radiant!]] without discussion prior to this vote being opened. Also, images moved to Commons may be GFDL violations because they were copied without revision histories, or they may be later found to be ineligible for inclusion on Commons meaning we lose everything. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 4 July 2005 18:56 (UTC)

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#'''Strong Objection'''. This includes no exception to consider images where the image ''description page'' may be substanitally different here than on Commons. For diagrams and scientific plots, the image description page is often used to describe the source, how it was prepared and sometimes what it shows. At present Commons is very awkward at this because it may use a large number of languages explaining what the labels on a diagram mean, whereas a local copy on en only needs one. At the very least this proposal should require that the image description information at Commons also include any information present here. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] July 4, 2005 21:09 (UTC)
#'''Strong Objection'''. This includes no exception to consider images where the image ''description page'' may be substanitally different here than on Commons. For diagrams and scientific plots, the image description page is often used to describe the source, how it was prepared and sometimes what it shows. At present Commons is very awkward at this because it may use a large number of languages explaining what the labels on a diagram mean, whereas a local copy on en only needs one. At the very least this proposal should require that the image description information at Commons also include any information present here. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] July 4, 2005 21:09 (UTC)
#We need IFD to determine whether the image is suitable for the commons or if it's going to be deleted from there. [[User:JYolkowski|JYolkowski]] // [[User talk:JYolkowski|talk]] 5 July 2005 00:54 (UTC)
#We need IFD to determine whether the image is suitable for the commons or if it's going to be deleted from there. [[User:JYolkowski|JYolkowski]] // [[User talk:JYolkowski|talk]] 5 July 2005 00:54 (UTC)
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#Per Dragons flight. I understand some of the other language Wikipedias delete the image and then undelete the image description page; I'd have no objection to that. --[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] [[User talk:Cryptic|(talk)]] 5 July 2005 04:58 (UTC)
#Per Dragons flight. I understand some of the other language Wikipedias delete the image and then undelete the image description page; I'd have no objection to that. --[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] [[User talk:Cryptic|(talk)]] 5 July 2005 04:58 (UTC)
# Per Dragons Flight. [[User:Xoloz|Xoloz]] 5 July 2005 07:02 (UTC)
# Per Dragons Flight. [[User:Xoloz|Xoloz]] 5 July 2005 07:02 (UTC)

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Revision as of 08:13, 5 July 2005

This is part of Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Proposal.

I1 (images on WikiCommons)

Speedy deletion criterion I1 should be reworded to "Any image that is a duplicate of another image on Wikipedia or on WikiCommons (if allowed on WikiCommons by their license), in the same file format and the same or better in image size and quality, but only if all content on the image's description page is included in the description page on WikiCommons"
  • Presently, the criterion reads, "An image which is a redundant (all pixels the same or scaled-down) copy of something else on Wikipedia and as long as all inward links have been changed to the image being retained. This does not include visually similar pictures, such as PNG versions of JPEG images. For the time being, this also does not apply to images that exist on the Wikimedia Commons."
  • Specifically, WikiCommons does not allow 'fair use' material, while WikiPedia does, and the WikiPedia license allows for 'disclaimers' while the WikiCommons license does not.
  • Links to the image should be changed (if necessary) before the image is deleted.
  • Obviously, this does not apply to a different image with the same subject, e.g. a picture of the Big Ben from a different camera angle. If you feel an image is redundant, please take it to WP:IFD.
  • If you are unsure about this proposal, consider that there is a proposed test run to try it out for a month.

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  1. I object primarily because the wording of this item was changed by User:Radiant! without discussion prior to this vote being opened. Also, images moved to Commons may be GFDL violations because they were copied without revision histories, or they may be later found to be ineligible for inclusion on Commons meaning we lose everything. -- Netoholic @ 4 July 2005 18:56 (UTC)