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:The bit about Christians calling Jesus "a Son of God" because he was "a wise and holy man" is tripe. Jesus was recognized as the only Son of God by his followers (see [http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?John+3:16;Hebrews+11:17;1John+4:9;1John+5:5 John 3:16, Hebrews 11:17, 1 John 4:9, and 1 John 5:5] for examples), and his enemies in the Jewish power base plotted his death because Jesus claimed equality with God (see [http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?John+5:18 John 5:18], for example). ''<>< [[tbc]]''
:The bit about Christians calling Jesus "a Son of God" because he was "a wise and holy man" is tripe. Jesus was recognized as the only Son of God by his followers (see [http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?John+3:16;Hebrews+11:17;1John+4:9;1John+5:5 John 3:16, Hebrews 11:17, 1 John 4:9, and 1 John 5:5] for examples), and his enemies in the Jewish power base plotted his death because Jesus claimed equality with God (see [http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?John+5:18 John 5:18], for example). ''<>< [[tbc]]''

::Well certaintly that was what they came to believe at some point; whether they always believed that or whether the belief was a later development is an open question, as is whether all of Jesus' followers believed that or whether it was only some group. The New Testament was written several decades after Jesus' death, and certaintly its authors did not represent the full range of thought in earliest Christianity (otherwise, why is it filled with warnings about 'false teachers'?). So exactly what the earliest followers of Jesus believed we don't know. -- [[Simon J Kissane]]





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In Greek Mythology you will find many Sons (and Daughters) of God, but apart from mythology it was very common to call a wise and holy person Son of God.

The early Cristians named Jesus a Son of God, to say he was a wise and holy person indeed.

This all within Roman Civilisation, with many many Gods around, in the Helenistic melting pot.

Later, when Cristians were in power, they said Jesus is the only Son of God, so the Christians were very human indeed.


Is any of this true? ---rmhermen


Well, there were many sons and daughters of Zeus, but calling him "God" seems a confusion of the issues. As for the conclusion that Christians were very human indeed--can one person be more human than another? The last sentence seems like a candidate for the scrap heap. "Christian" does indeed have an "h" between the C and the R. And "Hellenistic" has two l's. I can't speak for the content, though. It sounds like filler for bad jokes and other deleted nonsense, though it may just need considerable expansion and citation. --KQ


The bit about Christians calling Jesus "a Son of God" because he was "a wise and holy man" is tripe. Jesus was recognized as the only Son of God by his followers (see John 3:16, Hebrews 11:17, 1 John 4:9, and 1 John 5:5 for examples), and his enemies in the Jewish power base plotted his death because Jesus claimed equality with God (see John 5:18, for example). <>< tbc
Well certaintly that was what they came to believe at some point; whether they always believed that or whether the belief was a later development is an open question, as is whether all of Jesus' followers believed that or whether it was only some group. The New Testament was written several decades after Jesus' death, and certaintly its authors did not represent the full range of thought in earliest Christianity (otherwise, why is it filled with warnings about 'false teachers'?). So exactly what the earliest followers of Jesus believed we don't know. -- Simon J Kissane


so the only candidate for restoral is "[In Greek society] it was very common to call a wise and holy person Son of God"? Hm. What was intended by this article, anyway? A historical examination of people claiming to be the Son of God? Or a partisan screed about Jesus Christ? Regardless of what was originally intended, what should it be? Has anyone other than Jesus claimed to be the son of God? --KQ