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David M. Zimmerman Elementary School

Schoolcruft and strongly believed to be a hoax. Can I say more? Delete. ~~~~ 09:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes you can. Please be more descriptive in your nomination and explain why you think it's cruft. Cruft is often seen as a derogatory and misused term. Explaining helps to keep the good faith. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:13, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable primary school like the hundreds of thousands like it. Unverified and not remotely encyclopaedic. --Last Malthusian 10:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, substub not an article. Doesn't tell us any of the basic details one needs to know about a school. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unless a consensus is someday reached to index every school out there, just doesn't seem notable. --StuffOfInterest 14:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:08, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- And this is why nominators should do research on schools before they nominate. This article appears to be a hoax, though the nominator failed to uncover this, thus demonstrating that they did not follow our deletion policy (which requires that one, before nominating, determine that the article does not fall under a category that does not require deletion, like a failure of POV, or needing cleanup.) It is a waste of everyones time to nominate articles that will obviously generate controvercy on AFD without doing the requiste research. No vote Hipocrite - «Talk» 21:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nn school. Catchpole 15:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Hipocrite --eleuthero 18:32, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as empty, and disregard any vote that does not address this particular instance or show familiarity with the article. No "delete per another page" nor "keep per another page": read this particular article and express an opinion on it. Otherwise, you'll vote to keep articles that say, "You are all idiots" but have titles called "Abraham Lincoln Elementary School." Geogre 19:12, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I would request any admin that disregards my vote to contact me personally. Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 20:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: If one wishes merely to refer to wp:sch, then that is fine. However, I feel that once one decides to take on the responsibility of saying "keep" or "delete," one must offer a rationale for that opinion that pertains to the article under debate. No meta page trumps a deliberative page, and, were there to be an actual policy to emerge from that debate (and I believe that it never will), then the decisions would be procedural and, again, not involve motioning for "keep" or "delete." Again, if you vote, rationalize the vote with reference to the article. I note that schools are the only situation where things have gotten so bad that folks are admittedly not even reading the articles and yet proposing that they be kept or deleted. This is against the spirit of AfD, to say the least, and that is why I took the unusual step of urging a disregarding of such motions. Geogre 21:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hoax. Google returns no hits on "David M. Zimmerman Elementary School". How is that possible if school exists? If anybody can show evidence that school does exists, change my voet toe Keep per Hipocrite.Herostratus 19:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I assure you that if I had googled it prior to nominating I would have tagged it for speedy. I guess I figured it would be pointless without a city & state. damn. ~~~~ 21:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Let's say the absolute minimum for schools inclusion is verifiability and location. This has neither. Durova 19:43, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This one smells worse than a week-dead narwhal. No Google hits, no specification anywhere in the article of where the schoolis located, and this was the user's only page creation: Coach Zed (talk · contribs). I smell a troll and possibly someone making a WP:POINT about knee-jerk school votes. It ain't working for me, this school inclusionist is voting delete. Turnstep 20:53, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unverified. Regardless of interpretation of WP:NOT, WP:V trumps that. Sam Vimes 21:01, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, unverified and non-notable. Nandesuka 21:25, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Speedy delete''' as empty, and disregard any vote that does not address this particular instance or show familiarity with the article.  No "delete per another page" nor "keep per another page": read this particular article and express an opinion on it.  Otherwise, you'll vote to keep articles that say, "You are all idiots" but have titles called "Abraham Lincoln Elementary School."  [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 19:12, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 ** I would request any admin that disregards my vote to contact me personally. Thank you. [[User:Hipocrite|Hipocrite]] - [[User talk:Hipocrite|&laquo;<small>Talk</small>&raquo;]] 20:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
+**Comment: If one wishes merely to refer to [[wp:sch]], then that is fine.  However, I feel that once one decides to take on the responsibility of saying "keep" or "delete," one ''must'' offer a rationale for that opinion that pertains to the article under debate.  No meta page trumps a deliberative page, and, were there to be an actual policy to emerge from that debate (and I believe that it never will), then the decisions would be procedural and, again, not involve motioning for "keep" or "delete."  Again, ''if'' you vote, rationalize the vote with reference to the article.  I note that schools are the only situation where things have gotten so bad that folks are admittedly not even reading the articles and yet proposing that they be kept or deleted.  This is against the spirit of AfD, to say the least, and that is why I took the unusual step of urging a disregarding of such motions.  [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 21:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Hoax'''. Google returns no hits on "David M. Zimmerman Elementary School".  How is that possible if school exists?  If anybody can show evidence that school does exists, change my voet toe '''Keep''' per Hipocrite.[[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 19:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 **'''Comment''': I assure you that if I had googled it prior to nominating I would have tagged it for speedy. I guess I figured it would be pointless without a city & state. damn. {{User:Freakofnurture/sig}} 21:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)