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Sockpuppets: See the second archive page; you were using them. However, it doesn't look like Dante's used any, so don't accuse him of that.
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Please don't make such accusations unless you have specific examples for backing them up. Otherwise, it really hurts your credibility. --[[User:Idont havaname|Idont Havaname]] 23:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Please don't make such accusations unless you have specific examples for backing them up. Otherwise, it really hurts your credibility. --[[User:Idont havaname|Idont Havaname]] 23:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

: Dante and I both determined that you were using [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet|sockpuppets]] earlier in the discussion; we know that because you, Clontarf-the-Mad, and Flagrancy were all posting from the same IP. (see [[Talk:Gothic metal/Archive 2#What Is Wrong With Leyasu's Edits]]). However, there's been no proof that Dante has been using any; I've searched the archives as well as your, Dante's, and my talk pages. If Dante's using sockpuppets (which I doubt), you'll need to provide some other user names that he's been using. If you can't come up with any user names or IPs that he's been posting with, then your claim doesn't hold any water.

:Since as far as I know, you haven't used sockpuppets in a few weeks, and that's hopefully just old discussion now, it would be best if we not get back into that kind of discussion. --[[User:Idont havaname|Idont Havaname]] 23:31, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:31, 30 November 2005

Revised version of Gothic metal - not yet

I'd say that shouldn't be posted yet; as you said, another revert war carries a high risk for everyone involved. (I'm really surprised that you and Dante weren't blocked the first time. Trying a revert war again would really be pressing your luck, and I strongly discourage either one of you from doing that.) The reason why the subpage is there is so that we can work on a revision that all three of us agree about. Mainly, you and/or I and/or Dante need to take care of citing the sources for the more controversial points in the article. Hope this helps! --Idont Havaname 04:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It has only been about two days, so it's best to allow several days for responses on that. I sometimes take whole weekends off from editing, for example. (Though in the last few months I've made it a point to at least check my talk page and watchlist every day that I'm online.) Either way, I do need to get to the revised version and copyedit it thoroughly. (Sorry that I haven't done that yet; I have a lot of projects going on right now, so I'm not able to spend as much time here as I'd like to.) --Idont Havaname 05:16, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Enough space on talk pages

Actually, that's not a concern at all. Keep in mind that Wikipedia hosts over 800,000 articles right now, plus all of the previous versions of each article (except when there's a copyright violation; I think we delete those entirely). Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia has some more information about this. So having archives of talk page discussions it not a problem. It's actually a good thing, because it gives details of how we reach consensus and keeps us from having to revisit arguments. That is, if a new editor comes here sometime next year and has a lot of questions, as you did, then they should be able to look at the archives instead of answering the questions again.

Also, please don't delete comments from my talk page; I know other users like to delete old comments, but I prefer to keep everything on the page and archive when I need to. --Idont Havaname 04:21, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dual vocalists

I've noticed that you're using the phrase "duel vocalists" a lot in your revisions. It should be "dual vocalists"; a duel is something entirely different. I just thought I should let you know about that. --Idont Havaname 04:31, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't use my talk page for arguing with other users. It's quite difficult keeping Talk:Gothic metal under control as it is. If you have any objections to the article that don't involve me, please use the article's talk page for that. --Idont Havaname 22:02, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppets

I haven't seen any evidence yet that Dante is using any sockpuppets. I do know that you did earlier. Which sockpuppets are you referring to?

Please don't make such accusations unless you have specific examples for backing them up. Otherwise, it really hurts your credibility. --Idont Havaname 23:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dante and I both determined that you were using sockpuppets earlier in the discussion; we know that because you, Clontarf-the-Mad, and Flagrancy were all posting from the same IP. (see Talk:Gothic metal/Archive 2#What Is Wrong With Leyasu's Edits). However, there's been no proof that Dante has been using any; I've searched the archives as well as your, Dante's, and my talk pages. If Dante's using sockpuppets (which I doubt), you'll need to provide some other user names that he's been using. If you can't come up with any user names or IPs that he's been posting with, then your claim doesn't hold any water.
Since as far as I know, you haven't used sockpuppets in a few weeks, and that's hopefully just old discussion now, it would be best if we not get back into that kind of discussion. --Idont Havaname 23:31, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]