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::: Okay I'll try to explain. In building articles it's important to always strive for [[WP:RS|''reliable'' sources]]. SarekOfVulcan removed your sources through concerns on their reliability. a) Ref 1 that you added is to IMDb.com. Some editors believe this isn't reliable because some of its information is drawn from [[WP:SPS|user-submissions]]. For a mainstream film it's probably possible to find a press source through googlenews to support the information. b) Refs 3 and 4 are [[WP:CIRCULAR|cites to Wikipedia itself]]. Avoid those. c) Again, [[WP:LEADCITE|generally the Lead doesn't need citing]] because it's a summary of the main body and the points are cited there. --[[Special:Contributions/92.6.211.228|92.6.211.228]] ([[User talk:92.6.211.228|talk]]) 23:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC) |
::: Okay I'll try to explain. In building articles it's important to always strive for [[WP:RS|''reliable'' sources]]. SarekOfVulcan removed your sources through concerns on their reliability. a) Ref 1 that you added is to IMDb.com. Some editors believe this isn't reliable because some of its information is drawn from [[WP:SPS|user-submissions]]. For a mainstream film it's probably possible to find a press source through googlenews to support the information. b) Refs 3 and 4 are [[WP:CIRCULAR|cites to Wikipedia itself]]. Avoid those. c) Again, [[WP:LEADCITE|generally the Lead doesn't need citing]] because it's a summary of the main body and the points are cited there. --[[Special:Contributions/92.6.211.228|92.6.211.228]] ([[User talk:92.6.211.228|talk]]) 23:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:::: I will remove IMDb and the Wikipedia sources and find valid news sources. Thanks. [[User:Eelnire|Eelnire]] ([[User talk:Eelnire|talk]]) 00:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC) |
:::: I will remove IMDb and the Wikipedia sources and find valid news sources. Thanks. [[User:Eelnire|Eelnire]] ([[User talk:Eelnire|talk]]) 00:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::::: Evaluating sources can be difficult, it's something you improve on gradually. Seeing good faith efforts to add better ones is always encouraging. |
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::::: The new ones are still somewhat weak. Wolframalpha claims it's an "answer engine". It appears to be a search engine that scrapes 'structured data' (e.g. in tables) from the web - which could include wikis; amazon.com being essentially a shopfront provides little as a ref. I suppose if the book had to be cited then the ''Washington Post'' article cited in the Criticism section would do, or if his producing the film needed to be cited the ''Prevue'' magazine ref used in the film article would do probably formatted something like: |
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:::::: <small><nowiki><ref name="redsc">{{cite journal |editor-last=Steranko |editor-first=James |editor-link=Jim Steranko |title=From soviet assassin to commie crusher! Dolph Lundgren delivers the ... |url=http://www.dolph-ultimate.com/dolph-in/prevue.html |id=(convenience link) |periodical=Prevue |year=1988 |month=October |volume=2 |issue=73 |pages= |location=Pennsylvania, USA |accessdate=May 3 2012 |issn=0199-9257}}</ref></nowiki></small>. |
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::::: ...Of course in practice I wouldn't have 10 cites in the lead myself. --[[Special:Contributions/92.6.211.228|92.6.211.228]] ([[User talk:92.6.211.228|talk]]) 14:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC) |
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