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This is the talk page for "the darkest Wikipedian ever".

All talk regarding about me and my edits should be directed here. I prefer concise messages. The only rule I have is to keep your discussions/messages as clean as possible. I need to know right away if an article that I have either edited/deleted/moved might cause any link discrepancies. Please let me know about it and I'll rectify it with the fullest extent of my strength at the shortest time possible.

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Page last archived by Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 04:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re Sennheiser

I don't know why you decided that I have a beef with Sennheiser as a whole and not the Sennheiser article. I love Sennheiser products, and have found them to design the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn. I have no problem with editing as I see fit either, but I've found that asking about things in place already tends to give me more information on deciding if and/or how to edit something. Like I said in its talk page, I wasn't trying to be facetious.RCHM 05:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason why I was inquiring was because you had some NPOV issues with the article, that's all. Try not to panic, as I'm just curious. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 10:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bose Headphone Family

Hay man I was wondering if I could get you involved with the debate here. I know that you voted already but I was wondering if you could help me with the comments throught the article. Right now it looks like we have a 7/7 tie. I hope that you can help, after all we have spent a lot of time creating the article it would be a shame to loose it. Chat to ya later :) -- UKPhoenix79 23:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with edits to Apprentice 4 article

Manual of style -- Please review the manual of style, especially when it comes to headings or the start of bullets. Things like "Initial Boardroom" should be "Initial boardroom". Also, on some of these fan articles, we do tend to use first names for the contestants, but Trump shouldn't be changed to Mr. Trump.
Many of your edits, in my opinion, cross the line when it comes to cruft and throwing in your opinions and/or personal wording to things (aka "original research"). I've been trying to clean these up and source everything as much as possible. You don't need to rewrite everything. I have agreed with some criticism of you in the past that you tend to think you WP:OWN the articles that you work on, and often I don't think your edits make the article better from an encyclopaedic standpoint.

--Sue Anne 20:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vesther, your message on my talk page is a prime example of what I feel is wrong with your edits on the Apprentice article.

You said - The reason why I capitalize descriptions (i.e. Initial Boardroom) is because when you describe bulleting and bold it (i.e. This bullet vs. This Bullet) with a colon, it needs to be as much attention-grabbing as possible. IMO I really don't think "This bullet" would be much of an attention-grabber. I'm not gonna debate on the capitalization conventions here.
The manual of style on capital letters says -- Capitalise the first letter of the first word and any proper nouns in headings, but leave the rest lower case. Thus "Rules and regulations", not "Rules and Regulations".
Your opinion is trumped (excuse the pun) by established Wikipedia policy. If you feel that the capital letters should be used, then you need to get policy changed ... not violate policy where you see fit. This is not my opinion, but the consensus of Wikipedia editors.

When it comes to Rebecca and the "not hired" / "fired" debacle, to be honest I really didn't care which way it went, but I was sick of the edit wars that were going on. Again, the consensus of those that participated in the discussion went again your personal opinion. Your habit of bringing that decision into every discussion just goes to prove the idea that you think you WP:OWN the article.

--Sue Anne 01:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 Hay man I was wondering if I could get you involved with the debate here. I know that you voted already but I was wondering if you could help me with the comments throught the article. Right now it looks like we have a 7/7 tie. I hope that you can help, after all we have spent a lot of time creating the article it would be a shame to loose it. Chat to ya later :) -- [[User:UKPhoenix79|UKPhoenix79]] 23:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
+== Problems with edits to [[Apprentice 4]] article ==
+* Manual of style -- Please review the manual of style, especially when it comes to headings or the start of bullets. Things like "Initial Boardroom" should be "Initial boardroom". Also, on some of these fan articles, we do tend to use first names for the contestants, but Trump shouldn't be changed to Mr. Trump.
+* Many of your edits, in my opinion, cross the line when it comes to cruft and throwing in your opinions and/or personal wording to things (aka "original research"). I've been trying to clean these up and source everything as much as possible. You don't need to rewrite everything. I have agreed with some criticism of you in the past that you tend to think you [[WP:OWN]] the articles that you work on, and often I don't think your edits make the article better from an encyclopaedic standpoint.
+--[[User:Sue Anne|Sue Anne]] 20:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
+:: Vesther, your message on my talk page is a prime example of what I feel is wrong with your edits on the Apprentice article.
+::* You said - ''The reason why I capitalize descriptions (i.e. Initial Boardroom) is because when you describe bulleting and bold it (i.e. This bullet vs. This Bullet) with a colon, it needs to be as much attention-grabbing as possible. IMO I really don't think "This bullet" would be much of an attention-grabber. I'm not gonna debate on the capitalization conventions here.''
+::* The [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)|manual of style on capital letters]] says -- ''Capitalise the first letter of the first word and any proper nouns in headings, but leave the rest lower case. Thus "Rules and regulations", not "Rules and Regulations".''
+::* Your opinion is trumped (excuse the pun) by established Wikipedia policy. If you feel that the capital letters should be used, then you need to get policy changed ... not violate policy where you see fit. This is not my opinion, but the consensus of Wikipedia editors.
+:: When it comes to Rebecca and the "not hired" / "fired" debacle, to be honest I really didn't care which way it went, but I was sick of the edit wars that were going on. Again, the consensus of those that participated in the discussion went again your personal opinion. Your habit of bringing that decision into every discussion just goes to prove the idea that you think you [[WP:OWN]] the article.
+:: --[[User:Sue Anne|Sue Anne]] 01:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)