User talk:Bdean1963

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Urarina

Good start to Urarina - I'll flesh out the rest of the footnote refs when I get a chance. (& when we're not tripping over each other LOL) doneBridesmill 05:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC) - BTW, do you thinkl you might be able to get a picture or two copylefted to put w/ the article?Bridesmill 05:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Footnote 7 (Múltiples regímenes...) looks like Sp. version of same article as footnote 6 - should we cite just the english article?Bridesmill 16:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The Rijke piece (http://www.geocities.com/s_ritadecastilla/contaminame/rijke.html), appears to be an unpublisked manuscript, therefore by WP standards not certain if it fits WP:V or WP:OR. Agree that Els Rijke is a credible notable authority, but is there a better cite for this article than a geocities website?Bridesmill 17:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Have a read of WP:CAT to see how they work - seems you're having a frustrating time with them :-) Bridesmill 03:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Polygyny

Have a look at that mess; interested in doing collaborative cleanup?Bridesmill 02:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Loreto Province

Please see talk:Loreto Province. Thank you. --UlTiMuS - ( T | C ) 15:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Korubu Indian

You have removed the picture of the Korubu Indian from the Indian page twice without explanation. Please provide the reasoning you have for removing it.--Dark Tichondrias 19:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Removal of Korubu image

Removal of picture of Korubu Indian (sic.) posted by Dark Tichondrias 19:02, 19, 2006 as it uses derogatory language (Indian) in the socio-cultural context of Peru. Moreover, the so called Korubu “Indians” have been reported by Amnesty International and in the popular press to reside in Brazil, not Peru (see for example http://www.pulseplanet.com/archive/May98/1612.html, http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0308/feature1/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com.

The photo posted by Dark Tichondrias appears to be associated with the Travel Channel’s profoundly problematic “documentary” Into the Amazon: First Contact which exoticizes the Korubu peoples rather than provides an “objective” ethnographic account of the challenges facing indigenous peoples of Amazonia (see http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:a5SMG2aBxzcJ:travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp%3Fepisode%3D0%26cpi%3D22265%26gid%3D5262%26channel%3DTRV+Into+the+Amazon:+First+Contact&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1)--Bdean1963,19 July 2006

From my personal experience as a member in the American Indian Student Organization for one year, "Indian" was the prefered term used by all the members with indigenous descent. The president of this organization was very vocal on the use of "Native American" being derogatory.--Dark Tichondrias 06:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

From my personal experience as a member of MEChA for three years, indigena (indigenous) and indio (Indian) are also used, but the English translation of indigena to indigenous doesn't have the same connotations as in Latin America.--Dark Tichondrias 06:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

If the Korubu Indians reside in Brazil rather than Peru, this is a minor issue that does not call for the picture to be removed.

The exotic slant of the documentary has no bearing on whether or not the picture is illustrative of a Korubu Indian.--Dark Tichondrias 06:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

For further discussion on the use of the word Indian vs Native American, see the Native American name controversy article.--Dark Tichondrias 06:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Straw Man of my Argument

Your attempts to discredit my argument for keeping separate indigenous American articles by setting up a straw man and then proceeding to knock it down has been responded to on the Talk:Indigenous peoples of the Americas. You had characterized my position to necessitate races of "scientific validity" which could not be gathered from my statements. Then, you proceded to discredit my argument, arguing that scientifically valid races do not exist. To other users who did not check what I had originally said, it would appear that you won the argument when you really used a logical fallacy to seemingly win the argument. Note that even though you also agreed with me to oppose a combination of the articles, your attempt was to discredit my argument, so it is still a straw man.--Dark Tichondrias 08:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Peru

Hello there. Your recent editions on Peru don't meet the criteria of what a NPOV article are supposed to have. The article in question is suppose to give a quick review of the history of the country, with facts and no speculations.

• In Peru, there has never been such discussion or open approach to the "race" issue (ignoring, of course, the last Presidential Elections in which they were use only for political purposes). Thus, your comments (and the use of words) that involve "indigenism" are out of place.
• The use of the words "Crisis of the Peruvian State" are your personal opinion. It is true that Peru has faced difficult times, but the state itself has not reach that category. Restrain yourself from using that term here in Wikipedia.
• What you claimed to be NPOV is the work of an international organization that has its own agenda and is clearly biased against former President Fujimori. The issue is currently being investigated by Chilean Courts, and Wikipedia is not a political forum to expose your claims nor a place where a person can be declared "guilty" with no fair trail.

Please avoid reverting the article. It does not add anything important and only promotes hate and political bias. Thanks. Messhermit 21:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Very well, you do not seem to even bother to answer my comment in your talk page. From now on, your editions on the Peru article will be reverted. Thank you. Messhermit 13:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Here [1] Suit yourself to read some impartial and non-partisan news before posting something. And please, my Talk page is not for reading some blogg on the net. You are promoting a POV and that is not allowed in Wikipedia. Messhermit 15:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

You ask for sources in the economic section of the article and do not bother to state yours for the ethnical composition of the country? Your edits are reverted until you provided accurate, non-partisan and neutral statistics. Thank you. Messhermit 14:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)