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A mentally ill, twisted freak like the Asperger's Syndrome sufferer Phoenixrod should learn how not to harass other people. No wonder you get death threats.
A mentally ill, twisted freak like the Asperger's Syndrome sufferer Phoenixrod should learn how not to harass other people. No wonder you get death threats. {{unsigned|Quentinmatsys|16 November 2006}}

:Quentinmatsys, I'm not sure what would possess you to make [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] and what could be construed as a death threat of your own [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Quentinmatsys&diff=88296713&oldid=88293496]. My mental state is quite healthy, and I do not in fact meet the criteria of "[a] mentally ill, twisted freak"; nor do I suffer from [[Asperger's syndrome]]. What I do suffer from is a lack of patience for unexplained page blankings like these: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=66827353&oldid=66728727], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=71688827&oldid=71686119], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=71974632&oldid=71722061], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=72386598&oldid=72275317], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=75998558&oldid=75919082], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=76781579&oldid=76629308], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=77792558&oldid=77624547], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=82379972&oldid=79756476], and so on in this very talk page's history. What really baffles me is why you continue to remove messages in spite of being told how Wikipedia's policies about talk pages and minor edits work.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AQuentinmatsys&diff=77624547&oldid=76781579] I would really like to continue to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] with your behavior, but the above message makes that increasingly difficult.

:Instead of erasing comments, I once more strongly suggest that you [[WP:ARCHIVE|archive]] your talk page, in line with Wikipedia's policy, when messages become too numerous. But there are a couple of reasons why it is frowned upon to remove messages from other editors; look at [[Help:Talk_page]] for details. If you don't agree with a comment, that's fine -- but then you should '''respond''' to it. Erasing comments looks suspiciously like brushing things under the carpet. Not good. Wikipedia values transparency; that's why comments on talk pages are retained.

:I apologize for reverting your talk page multiple times; that could certainly come across as [[Wikipedia:edit war|edit war]]ring, just as much as removing comments is. I honestly thought that you were not reading the messages left by various editors, so I wanted to make sure you saw them. It is also important for other editors to be able to see previous discussions; for instance, I had to dig through this talk page's history to find that other editors had suggested that you review the policy on [[WP:MINOR|minor edits]]. It's not fair to everyone else to make them do all that extra work.

:I suggest that one way that you might try to cooperate more readily with other users is to use clear [[WP:ES|edit summaries]]. Without an edit summary for your removal of messages, I had no frame of reference to know if it was a hostile act or one made out of ignorance of policy. The second case leaves room for other editors to give you advice to help you get comfortable with the way things work in Wikipedia.

:I hope that I have cleared up my reasoning and that you will become/remain a productive editor here. What do you say to that? Shall we shake hands and start over, and leave talk page messages intact? -[[User:Phoenixrod|Phoenixrod]] 08:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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A mentally ill, twisted freak like the Asperger's Syndrome sufferer Phoenixrod should learn how not to harass other people. No wonder you get death threats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quentinmatsys (talkcontribs) 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Quentinmatsys, I'm not sure what would possess you to make personal attacks and what could be construed as a death threat of your own [1]. My mental state is quite healthy, and I do not in fact meet the criteria of "[a] mentally ill, twisted freak"; nor do I suffer from Asperger's syndrome. What I do suffer from is a lack of patience for unexplained page blankings like these: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], and so on in this very talk page's history. What really baffles me is why you continue to remove messages in spite of being told how Wikipedia's policies about talk pages and minor edits work.[10] I would really like to continue to assume good faith with your behavior, but the above message makes that increasingly difficult.
Instead of erasing comments, I once more strongly suggest that you archive your talk page, in line with Wikipedia's policy, when messages become too numerous. But there are a couple of reasons why it is frowned upon to remove messages from other editors; look at Help:Talk_page for details. If you don't agree with a comment, that's fine -- but then you should respond to it. Erasing comments looks suspiciously like brushing things under the carpet. Not good. Wikipedia values transparency; that's why comments on talk pages are retained.
I apologize for reverting your talk page multiple times; that could certainly come across as edit warring, just as much as removing comments is. I honestly thought that you were not reading the messages left by various editors, so I wanted to make sure you saw them. It is also important for other editors to be able to see previous discussions; for instance, I had to dig through this talk page's history to find that other editors had suggested that you review the policy on minor edits. It's not fair to everyone else to make them do all that extra work.
I suggest that one way that you might try to cooperate more readily with other users is to use clear edit summaries. Without an edit summary for your removal of messages, I had no frame of reference to know if it was a hostile act or one made out of ignorance of policy. The second case leaves room for other editors to give you advice to help you get comfortable with the way things work in Wikipedia.
I hope that I have cleared up my reasoning and that you will become/remain a productive editor here. What do you say to that? Shall we shake hands and start over, and leave talk page messages intact? -Phoenixrod 08:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]