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The church yard has some (possibly early Anglo-Saxon) standing stones in it, known now as the "Giant's Thumb" and "Giant's Grave"

I wonder at the legitimacy of saying 'possibly early Anglo-Saxon'. I will remove this, not that I'm an authority, but I do know that Anglo-Saxon as a cultural element was very late coming to Cumbria, possibly about 10th century, and as such could not be 'early' Anglo-Saxon (more likely just Angle?) unless these people were invited into the kingdom to dwell, which I doubt. Enzedbrit 22:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is one reference and it cannot be correct. For a start, the Angles came to northern Britain, and in Cumbria, they arrived much later than the Teutonic invasion. Dates do not fit. Enzedbrit 06:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why would Saxons, who we accept as residing in the south, erect a monument in the north, beyond what was taken even as Angle territory, to a British king? Enzedbrit 22:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article intends to mean "Anglo-Saxon" since as you state, the more "Saxon" areas were in southern England. The wide consensus is though, that whatever level of Anglo-Saxon settlement, it was varied across most of England, including Cumbria, but more intense throughout the east of England, from Northumbria all the way down to Sussex. It needs to be noted that Rheged (and therefore including Cumbria) was annexed by the Anglian Kingdom of Northumbria by the middle of the 8th century, so the cross could very likely be an Anglian (or Anglo-Saxon) cross. Ciao, Epf 00:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doubt it: http://www.visitcumbria.com/pen/chp2.htm - I'll take this over someone's blog. Enzedbrit 20:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, thats an excellent site that you referenced, the photos are quite detailed. Turns out you're quite right, "Giant's Thumb" is in fact a Norse cross, although it appears there are still many Anglian crosses elsewhere in Cumbria, the finest example being at St. Cuthbert's in Bewcastle. Ciao, Epf 02:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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	:Doubt it: http://www.visitcumbria.com/pen/chp2.htm - I'll take this over someone's blog. [[User:Enzedbrit\|Enzedbrit]] 20:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)		:Doubt it: http://www.visitcumbria.com/pen/chp2.htm - I'll take this over someone's blog. [[User:Enzedbrit\|Enzedbrit]] 20:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

	*Thanks, thats an excellent site that you referenced, the photos are quite detailed. Turns out you're quite right, "Giant's Thumb" is in fact a Norse cross, although it appears there are still many Anglian crosses elsewhere in Cumbria, the finest example being at St. Cuthbert's in Bewcastle. Ciao, [[User:Epf\|Epf]] 02:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)		*Thanks, thats an excellent site that you referenced, the photos are quite detailed. Turns out you're quite right, "Giant's Thumb" is in fact a Norse cross, although it appears there are still many '''Anglian''' crosses elsewhere in Cumbria, the finest example being at '''St. Cuthbert's''' in '''Bewcastle'''. Ciao, [[User:Epf\|Epf]] 02:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)