Talk:Dude

Does anyone have a reference for 'dude' being an alteration of 'doodle' from 'Yankee Doodle'? This certainly sounds plausible to me, but both dictionaries I have checked claim unknown origin. Also, any insight into how the 'dude' of 'dude ranch' in the early century became the 'dude' or 'surfer dude' in the 60's would be greatly appreciated. Did 'dude' ever make an appearance in 'ebonics' (afro-amer. english)?

Though the definitive origin of "dude" is unknown, one popular theory suggests that it was a combination of "duds"; another word for the attire of these early hipsters, and "attitude"; their disposition to go along with the clothes. "Duds" -> "'tude" -> "dude" I haven't deleted this, but 'tude derives as pop slang from attitude in its late 1970s meaning. This is a fantasy invention of very recent coinage. Could it be removed or take a less prominent position? But if "tude" is a familiar and obvious coinage from "attitude," why is "dude" from the macaronic "Doodle" only plausible? Wetman 09:19, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Am I the only one who think the 'metrosexual' reference is completely spurious? It is not the same thing, and seem out of place. The Trolls of Navarone 19:33, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The new word metrosexual seems to be exactly what the word dude meant before it took on its current, rather new (later than 1960, probably) colloquial meaning. I was surprised at how this article began before I edited it a few minutes ago; it's as if it was written by people who only grudgingly admit that the word existed before it took on its new meaning. Michael Hardy 22:07, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wetman on Revision as of 01:14, 19 Jan 2005 while making some really excellent formatting, grammatic, and phrasing changes also added the unsupported assertion that "all connotations of dude as used on Wayne's World The dude is male. Even its current usage, it has not crossed the gender barrier". This is factually incorrect, unsupported by any documentation or references, and completely ignoring mainstream usage. I updated the page, creating a new section called "Crossing the Gender Barrier", which discusses and documents--with references--the way the word dude has evolved to apply across gender. Madcowan 20:58, 7 April 2005 (UTC)

I heard that it's somehow related to word that means horse's hair.

The Endless Summer

The endless summer features the year long globe-hopping surf trip of Robert August and Michael Henson. It features the music of The Sandals not The Beach Boys.

The confusion must be over The Beach Boys album entitled "Endless Summer".

A Riff on

Don't the various uses of "dude" here apply to any noun or pronoun referring to a specific person? (e.g. "John?", "sir!")

Dude? Naw, dude. I mean, dude. In all seriousness, "Dude" can be used in ways that similar words like "Sir" cannot. There are a whole host of meanings that the word "dude" can take on, especially in California English, that are fully codified by inflection and body language, even if the specifics aren't fully spelled out anywhere. For example, "Dude! That was awesome!" can be rewritten as "All right! That was awesome!" but not as "Sir! That was awesome!" At the same time, "Excuse me, sir," can also be expressed as "Sorry, dude," or even "Dude," but not as "Excuse me, all right." So, although body language can change the meaning of a word considerably, "dude" is among the most flexibly usable of them. InVinoVeritas 08:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandal!

IP: 70.88.99.245 edited "DUDE ALSO REFERS TO THE HAIR ON A MALE ELEPHANTS TESTICLES" into the Dude article and "BUY IT AT IVERSON'S LUMBER IN MILFORD, MI WE'LL BEAT YOUR BEST PRICE" into Weatherbest. --Head of the Caligula Appreciation Society 02:44, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Pronounciation

I'm french and never heard anyone saying it so I asked a few of my american friends online how to pronounce it, and they say they never heard it being pronounced as "dyood", only "dood", someone told me that in california it's pronounced "dyood", so, could this article tell about the different pronounciation and what kinda of people say what, cuz i'm confused? --SuperBleda 03:20, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

"dyood" is more of a surfer/skater accent, and it depends on where you are. This pronunciation is used particularly on the coast of California, where surfer communities are common. --Colorless Green Ideas 21:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd say that the Californian "dyood" is more of a stressed "dəd" than a proper "dyood". (Note that the Californian stressed schwa is not the same sound as the short u of "dud." Compare the Californian "kewl," which is more of a "cuall" than a "kyool.") --InVinoVeritas 08:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Does the following text really belong in the article? I would like to remove it, as it is kind of vague, and doesn't even really refer to the preceding content.

"The latter is generally a non-specific exclamation which can be directed at, but not precisely applied to any certain person. The former is rarely applied to a woman; in fact doing so is sometimes a derogatory expression of a woman's over-masculinity ("she's quite a dude")."

--Colorless Green Ideas 21:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Dude-also pronounced "diyuud" by the pipsqueak people who just say it for lack of a better word. --Da.Tomato.Dude 14:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

dude

i also heard somewhere that dude also is the infected hair on an elephants butt

i dunno about this, but can someone check?MichaelHa 02:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I've heard this before as well (and once of 'dudette' that it's a rhino's butt), but looking around, I can find no real source. My best guess is that it's some dumb thing someone made up. (Another, thing I've heard is that he western term 'dude' comes from the meaning 'pimple on one's ass' (E2 writeup) but I can't find a secondary source for this either.) -- General Wesc 14:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I've heard the same. Mostly from middle schoolers who like to show off a piece of little known "knowledge" a teacher passed on to them. I havn't found any reference either. I did find this little gem : "The word "moron" is the name for people who believe that the word "dude" is the name for an infected elephant butt hair." [1] PrometheusX303 00:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

This is not an infected hair. It is a regular hair on an elephants butt - in the Bangladesh language. Not english, nooooo. So I dont think that you should be worried about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Da.Tomato.Dude (talk • contribs) 01:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Frazer Smith

Frazer Smith, a Los Angeles based radio shock jock, when he is in the guise of his heavy metal alter ego, Barry Metalow(sp?) (a take-off on the name Barry Manilow), often uses the terms "Dude", "Hey, Dude", and "Oh, Dude" (with great comic effect). He has done this since the early 1980s. Perhaps some citations on this could be found and Smith could be added to the main article.

69.39.172.52 20:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Dude, Where's My Car?, features Ashton Kutcher and Seann William Scott, as two sweet dudes who lose their car.

Can "two sweet dudes" be changed into something less immature like "two young friends" or "two male friends" or "two men in their early 20s"? VarunRajendran

Could someone clarify in parentheses or round brackets or something what each use of "dude" means in the argument, maybe cite which usage from the list.

bizznot

Hmm....my guesses are here.

Dude (exclamitory)- in surprise, as in "Ohmigosh" in a dude way.\

Dude (duuuuuuude)- in gratefulness or thanks

Dude (casually) - used when you dont know the name of someone.

Da.Tomato.Dude

Dude

Would it be biased for a female dude (such as muah)to say dude? Or is this "dude" thing turning into a teen/boy thing where it is only used to state dude-ness of the dudenicity? (hope you could follow that) --Da.Tomato.Dude 14:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Dude Myth

For many years I have heard people claiming that the real meaning of dude is: a camels penis. Does anybody know where this came from? Was there a dictionary somewhere that published this meaning? Has anybody else come across a similar definition?

Yes, I have one similar to that. A dude is an infected hair on an elephant's butt. I think both are urban myths and probably the result of Male Answer Syndrome. Oh, by the way, sign with four tildes. Pteren 22:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Black or Surfer?

At the bottom of the introductory section, it says the term is from the black community. Then in the Origin section, it mentions exclusively about the surfer culture. That is confusing. Can someone clarify the inconsistency? Kowloonese 21:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Surfers typically don't identify with the term. Although it's use in early times may be linked to the tv show Howdie Doodie, whence from an old surfer term came, Cowabunga.

Windsurfing move, Canada

• 2007 - Ultra popular term for males in many Canadian cities, especially in Mississaugaalso a move on a wind board were the rider lets go of the kite, backflips while droping 3ft through the air, to come back up and grab the kite then return to the floor.

Removed this line as the first point seems unrelated to the listed date. References to international spread, as well as the second point about windsurfing, deserve expansion. Relaxing 14:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

rhetorical questions

I hate to say it but are the rhetorical questions a6t the end of "origins" really necessary? Doobuzz 16:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)