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⚫ | For all your efforts, you are not alone and a valued contributor. Instead of Mudville, remember: [[Dodgers#The 1988 World Series Championship Team: .22The Impossible Has Happened.21.22|The Impossible has Happened]] and [[Kirk Gibson]]. May you walk off the field of honor, maybe beaten like he but known for having hit a homer and return for more plate appearances. [[User:Ronbo76|Ronbo76]] 21:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Re: Hey DICK!
I invoke the essay (and I do not do so lightly) because, in my considered opinion, your actions are grossly harmful to Wikipedia.
The creation and operation of WikiProjects—the entire WikiProject system, in other words—is run primarily on the basis of common understandings and gentlemen's agreements. Foremost among these is the fundamental principle that WikiProjects are basically autonomous, and do not interfere with the internal operations of other WikiProjects. This has been the case for as long as WikiProjects have been around, and has largely been responsible for the current friendly relations among the active projects.
What you're pushing for, however, is an adversarial system, where WikiProjects must worry about protecting their operations from the intrusion of other, competing WikiProjects. Your actions are entirely unprecedented; there has never been a systematic effort by one WikiProject to limit the scope of another over that other project's objections. For example, currently nobody really cares about the creation of new projects, since they're harmless at worst; multiple projects can happily coexist in the same subject areas. In your setup, on the other hand, larger projects would be forced to destroy their own child projects; failure to do so would mean that large swathes of their scope would suddenly become inaccessible to them, whether for recruitment, or article assessment, or anything else they may wish to do. (If I were less respectful of WP:POINT, I would create WikiProject Southwestern California and demonstrate just how quickly—and how pervasively—this balkanization will take root.)
I have no idea, frankly, why you think that this approach is a good idea; based on my experience with WikiProjects, I would argue that it's utterly inappropriate, and will lead to nothing but ever-increasing conflict. Kirill Lokshin 17:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- You are, I think, slightly missing the point. Whether or not the division seems logical to WP:SOCAL doesn't matter in the least; the point is that it's simply not up to WP:SOCAL to determine what WP:CAL considers to be in- or out-of-scope. If you get the go-ahead from WP:CAL to remove its tags, fine; but I refuse to countenance this sort of unilateral expulsion of a different WikiProject from articles which they themselves believe to be relevant to them. Kirill Lokshin 06:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Mudville
BV - I just wanted you to know that I'm sorry that there is no joy. I see that my efforts to have a discussion on this topic are bugging you, and I really regret if this discussion is causing you to be less motivated here!
You've hit lots of home runs here, my friend, and will hit many more. It's the optimist in me that makes me think that a sensible solution is available here amidst thoughtful people. Wikipedia needs people like you (lots of them!) who are kind, hard-working, stable, and able to keep their heads clear and calm.
I don't see a baseball barnstar, or I'd give you one to say thank you, so here's a small token instead. C'mon, champ, batter up! There's more home runs to hit . . . Spamreporter1 22:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Keep the faith
For all your efforts, you are not alone and a valued contributor. Instead of Mudville, remember: The Impossible has Happened and Kirk Gibson. May you walk off the field of honor, maybe beaten like he but known for having hit a homer and return for more plate appearances. Ronbo76 21:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)