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Discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Vital Article page group

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Vital Article page group. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Is Coffee and Land go for GA?

Does anyone here has any other proposals? Be quick, as the Vital GA drive will launch two days later on 1 September. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• Throwing out two suggestions: Nutrition and Space station. Nutrition was expanded as part of the 30kB drive, already looks very close to a B-class and had an active contributor, so it should be easy enough for a GA. Space station, while not fully fleshed out and B-class yet, also has active contributors. Cacti, the organiser behind this push, has an interest in space and rocketry, so that's another advantage the project might have in relation to this article. 117.197.85.126 (talk) 18:05, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  I agree, IP, that Nutrition is a good candidate. How about just Coffee and Nutrition? — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  A point I would like to make is that we need not restrict ourselves to two articles. The goal of the project is two successful good articles nomination. Considering the manpower the project has (10+ active members apparently) and diversity of their interests, I think it can afford to focus on three, four, or even five articles, with the goal of nominating them and ensuring at least two are successful. 117.197.85.126 (talk) 18:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  In my opinion, we should limit to 2 or fewer. We need the highest quality we can possibly achieve, since Vital GAs are notoriously more difficult than normal GAs, more articles to promote will increase the likelihood of failure. This is our first attempt at a Vital GA so we should start small. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 19:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  Agreed that two or fewer would be the best for now. I had noticed the great improvements to the Nutrition article—I'm impartial between Coffee+Land and Coffee+Nutrition, but would support Nutrition if it leads to a consensus. Aza24 (talk) 19:22, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  As evident by my talk page and like IP has said, I would like to swap Land for Space station :) Just kidding, I don't really mind either way, but the article limit should be 2 because we are right now a small WikiProject. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 00:21, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

  Much as I would love to see Space Station reach GA and I think that there is a lot of information that could be added which would help make it easier to do I think that it would be too much effort. Apart from anything else there are lots of sections without information such as Maintenance. I suspect that the trajectory of the article is that it will grow to be well over 100k and then parts will be split off. Gusfriend (talk) 07:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

30kB drive: Last call

The 30 kB drive has about 24 hours remaining as of this post. Given the significant improvements to some of these articles, I'd say it's been a success. And while the end point and the sizes are mostly arbitrary, there are a few articles that could still use that boost to 30kB if you want to make one last push over the next 24 hours:

• Physical chemistry needs 15,384
• Strong interaction needs 12,143
• Masonry needs 11,113
• Variable (mathematics) needs 8,023
• Chemical compound needs 10,481
• Electric light needs 8,972
• Social equality needs 8,430
• Grammar needs 3,634
• Design was completed but needs 4,991 due to mass removals

Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:51, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, pinging editors @Thebiguglyalien, Solobear89, and EpicPupper: who have articles marked as  Working at WP:30kb, while the deadline is a day away (September 1st). — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@SpaceEconomist192: (sorry this one too) — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Good job with this 30kB drive. Finally en.wp has the highest growth in the meta table here --> meta:List of Wikipedias by sample of articles --MarsRover (talk) 23:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

GA drive prep

@CactiStaccingCrane: For the GA drive, you should 1) send out a mass message to all project members to inform them of the drive, 2) Add the drive to WP:CBB, 3) create a centralized place to discuss each article (I think we should un-redirect Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vital Articles/Vital GA Drive). I believe we should each read through the article, and create a collective to-do list of things that need to be fixed.

Personally, I won't be of much help at the moment due to tooth surgery — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 22:11, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to add the drive to the community portal now and have prepared my MassMessage at User:CactiStaccingCrane/sandbox – it's just a matter of time before it is sent. Personally, I don't think that the discussion should happen in an internal page as it would be frustrating for other editors and potentially becoming a WP:CANVASSING issue when we nominate the article. I think it's best to discuss each article separately, and when centralized discussion is needed, just go to the WT:PVITAL talk page. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 02:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:08, 3 September 2022 (UTC)