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yo i added a drum beat page that links to this page as well as to blast beats and some other crap. check it out and improve it if you like.

--Macho 2:10PM April 25, 2005

hey y'all-- i fixed a typo (it's -> its), and i changed "subtley" (not a word) assuming you meant it to be "subtly". change it if i was wrong.

disclose page.

hey, i made a page about disclose! can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disclose

-Marxxxx 16:49, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all, im new to this. Macho, i was wondering if you knew anything on what c-beat is? I recently heard it through a thrash band George Harrison. They mentioned c-beat in their lyrics.

i know nothing of c-beat, sounds like a neologism someone made up to make themselves sound cool. also- i just removed the last sentence of the article, since it was clumsy and inepsy are now included in the list at the end of the article.

Macho Philipovich 21:21, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

i fixed a link, and cleaned the band section up.

-Marxxxx 16:49, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I made sections for the page. I also cleaned up the Brazil secion somewhat, but I think it needs more work. Will someone please do that? Also I standardized the punctuation on this page to "D-beat" (earlier there also times when it was punctuated "D-Beat" and "d-beat"). Is that an acceptable way to do it? The band list is getting long. Can we shorten it or sort it by style or region?

-Macho Philipovich 17:34, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

"D-beat" is the best way to standardize it, in my opinion Jowe27 03:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

temporary nonsense

Someone changed the first paragraph of this article to some nonsense about something else and posted a giant picture of a guy with a neck beard and a Burzum shirt. (?) I put it back to what it was before. I'm pretty new at this, so I don't know if there's some quick way to "revert" a page or report nonsense..

Reverted

Someone changed the start of the article to say that Discharge was a Punk Metal band instead of Hardcore Punk. To be honest, I don't think it was a useful change, since Hardcore Punk is a common term, yet I have been involved in this scene for years and never heard the term "Punk Metal". (Maybe "Crossover"). Besides, the Punk Metal article is apparantly slated for deletion. Dan Carkner 13:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

/* too many bands */

I think there are too many little-known bands listed on this article. It seems like every person who comes just looks at it and says "Why--they didn't mention Disclamber!" or whatever and adds one more unheard of band to the list. Dan Carkner 05:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Haha... Yeah, you're right, I haven't heard of half of the bands mentioned in the list. Maybe we should tone it down and just mention a few well-known D-beat groups. —Quirk 23:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me with other genres, that they have a separate page like "List of Screamo bands" or whatever. People can add to the list to their heart's content. I do think that it's somewhat pointless to list a little-known band that doesn't have a wikipedia article. Dan Carkner 00:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I created a List of D-beat bands and deleted all red links from the band list on this page. The list on this page should perhaps be even more succinct, but I'm not sure which bands to leave and which to discard. —Quirk 23:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Heh heh, you were even more harsh than I was; I took out about half of them yesterday. Suits me fine.. Dan Carkner 02:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

i think its funny how at least half those bands have names like either dis[whatever] or [whatever]charge. i mean, i know thats one of the trade mark, but i think the band named DischargeD really took it over the line, imean changing it to past tense dosnt really mean you can use someone elses name.

Yeah, and they all try to rip-off Discharge's logo. I almost bought this patch thinking it was Discharge until I looked closer and saw it was some band called Disclose. It's kinda funny and pathetic. Ungovernable Force^{Got something to say?} 21:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disclose pwns Discharge anyway. Makes them sound like sissies.

Sample?

A sound sample of D-beat would be great. It is difficult to describe how a specific beat or sound "feels" like to listen to, so a sound sample from either a song or just the beat would be a very good addition here.

I concur--87.64.21.155 10:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i dunno. it was just described to me as repetitive drum beats, with lots of hollow sounding drums, i know thats completly un-technical, but D-beat isnt a technical type of music really.

on the blast beat page there's what I believe is a MIDI sample of blast beats played at various speeds; It would indeed be a great idea to do something similar here, if for no other reason than it's a pain to try to explain what a d-beat sounds like to someone by slapping your hands on your knees. Anybody got a decent midi program?Jowe27 03:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that D-beat is wrongly tabbed on the page. Could somebody confirm if D-beat is the first beat of this Discharge song (Yes-or-No-question). Maybe I confused the beat, since it's differently named in my language.

--Kubanczyk 17:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Link doesn't work but I'm pretty sure that beat is correct (on the page). Diabolical 19:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duh, it is really convincing... Link works, check again. Is there a chance your proxy is blocking mp3 files? --Kubanczyk 18:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Working now. It's not the first beat, it's the beat that's playing during the verse. I think the tab is correct. Diabolical 19:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then you assured me that tabbing is wrong. But for further verification I made a two quick samples

and

. I believe one of them is D-beat and one is not. I have the sources available as *.it tracks, if you want to check precise notation. We can later put right ogg in article. --Kubanczyk 00:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first bit of the first sample is D-beat but the latter half is unnecessary and potentially confusing. Diabolical 02:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. But now you got me confused! --Kubanczyk 07:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What a mess

This article really needs to be re-written and re-formatted, when i first came across it, it had zero wiki links and no proper formatting. I tried to fix some of the worst mistakes, but there's still a ton that needs to be re-worked to bring it up to wikipedia standards. Jesse K. 23:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it still looks much worse than it did before after several edits.. How is it an improvement to move the intro to the second paragraph and leave a weird tiny, blank title bar? I guess it's a work in progress, but.. Dan Carkner 14:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the references?

I came from DISCHARGE page and I feel there were a tiny reference/source for d-beat (only the Buzzcocks song). Then I came here and seems that it was made by the same person. There should be a better research about this, 'cos I see that the first direct reference came from Iggy Pop song "I got a right" (TV Eye 1977 EP) which is a 2:20 minute fast-paced d-beat hell of a song. Also there is "The witch" from The Sonics, and if you dig it deep you'll get pieces from Animals singles, Beach Boys and even The Monkees! I could write it by myself but my english is not that good (but I can help on it). So I think this text deserves at least some paragraphs regarding the references and history of this nature of beat. thank you, Bruno. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.181.86.15 (talk) 20:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Origins?

Can anyone justify the 'cultural origins' being north america? I'm not entirely sure how far back Wikipedia refer to by 'origins', but surely the most notable cultural origin would be discharge? And therefore UK.

I agree, UK and scandinavia. Dan Carkner 22:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I get it, that is just a generic hardcorepunk box, it doesn't refer to this specific style.Dan Carkner 03:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 i think its funny how at least half those bands have names like either dis[whatever] or [whatever]charge. i mean, i know thats one of the trade mark, but i think the band named DischargeD really took it over the line, imean changing it to past tense dosnt really mean you can use someone elses name.
 :Yeah, and they all try to rip-off Discharge's logo. I almost bought [http://angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=415&idproduct=75141 this patch] thinking it was Discharge until I looked closer and saw it was some band called Disclose. It's kinda funny and pathetic. [[User:The Ungovernable Force|<b><font color="black">Ungovernable Force</font></b>]][[User talk:The Ungovernable Force|<font color="green"><sup>Got something to say?</sup></font>]] 21:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
+::Disclose pwns Discharge anyway. Makes them sound like sissies.
 == Sample? ==