Talk:George Costanza

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His original job when the series started was as a real estate agent; he ended up getting fired after he slipped his boss a mickey. Didn't George get fired for yelling at his boss and then as revenge try to slip him a mickey? [User:TimSPC|Tim] 20:53, 7 December 2005

yes, but his boss rehired him at the party, but it was too late to get the mickey away from him, so he wound up fired after all.

Interview

"Alexander related in an interview that, early in the creation of the show, he once expressed having problems acting out a scene in the script, because he felt no one would ever behave in "such a way". David replied to him that the exact situation had actually happened to him, and he had reacted in exactly "that way". Alexander said that this was a breakthrough for him in portraying the character, giving him valuable insight into both David and George."

It would be good to have a citation for this. --Mattucd 22:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

it's in the first episode of "Curb your Enthusiasm" (The Mocumentary one where Larry is preparing for an HBO stand up special that doesn't happen

Parallelism

We should try to make the articles on Cosmo Kramer, George Costanza, and Elaine Benes parallel.

George Costanza moments

We need to hack down this section -- there is just way too much material. We don't need to list every plotline that George was involved in. Perhaps it would be best to isolate particular characteristics that George exhibits -- dishonesty, extravagant plots, overreaction to small things, etc. -- and give one or two examples for each one. This would not only make the section more managable, but easier to gain an understanding of who George is. Dylan 20:35, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Support - the list is meaningless as is, as it seems to be a synopsis of just about every episode he was in. A list of attributes with some examples would be far more useful.

I've gone ahead and redone the list - some of the stuff I've deleted but can be added in - I would suggest that not just a laundry list of "stuff George did" be added, but it should be something that George has done that exemplifies a particular trait, followed by the way in which his character trait made things backfire on him.

Stuff like the answering machine message is more like "trivia" and should go under a separate section. Michael Dorosh 16:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Strange question

Has George Costanza ever attended college? He called his bathroom at Play Now "Xanadu" so he had some exposure to Coleridge, worked in the publishing industry and seems to be smart enough to be gifted with some degree of cunning/lying. --Blue387 21:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. When Estelle is encouraging him to take a civil service test, he replies, "I'm a college graduate; you want me to be a mailman?" ("The Puffy Shirt") Dylan 03:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

He also mentions in one episode that his college roommate was uncircumcised. Kakashi-sensei 22:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Alter Ego

I'm not sure "alter ego" is the correct term for Costanza ("The character of George is based on the alter ego of the show's co-creator, Larry David."). I forget the exact phrase Larry David uses, but alter ego implies a second personality, and Costanza is essentially a fairly close representation of Larry David. Interestingly enough, Art Vandalay is listed as an alter ego of George Costanza in the entry for alter ego!

I removed the phrase "alter ego" because it isn't the correct term at all. I can't think of the proper term either, but it would just be easier to say he is based on Larry David, which is completely true. Kakashi-sensei 22:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Article Length

This article's starting to get on the verge of being too long and unwieldy. Please don't summarize every detail that happened in an episode - that's what the episode articles are for. Let's stick to concise small bullet points or small paragraphs Mezaco 12:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

-Yeah It's kind of ironic that the length of this article is longer than Jason Alexanders

Religion and ethnic background of George Costanza

hey all! George Costanza is italian, right?!?! please let me know.

I believe so. I think Frank went to Italy to see a relative in one episode. Bean 01:57, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, his heritage is Italian. The show also hints at him sharing a Jewish heritage as well --Will2k 06:26, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

I always thought he was Italian because of his name. I suppose there's no reason he can't be Jewish and Italian. There are a number of Italian Jews.\

While trying to chum up to an employee of an Italian calzone shop, George states that his last name is Italian. Dylan 03:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

George clearly states the Italian origin of his last name in the Calzone episode, and in another episide, Frank Costanza (George's father) visits a relative in Tuscany. I always thought that the show implied George being of Jewish descent, thus Frank (George's father) could be descended from Italian Jews. In practice, the Constanzas seem agnostic. They celebrate no religious holidays, thus prompting Frank to invent his own early-winter holiday -Festivus ("A Festivus for the rest of us")- to coincide with Christmas and Hanukah seasons. Skyduster 04:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

 Shouldnt his religion be put jewish till season 5 becuase he converted to lathvian orthodox in "the conversion"

George is not jewish. Several interviews show that his texts was written showing his family with some new york jewish stereoptypes, but george has never been labeled as jewish by the authors. It's pure speculation, + Frank used to sell christian items 128.135.190.84 09:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Just beause his father sold christian items, doesn't mean Estelle isn't Jewish. Also, did he ever convert from Latvian Orthadox?

George has Italian heritage, and is most likely Catholic in practice. He is written into some "Jewish jokes" throughout the series, but whether of not is Jewish, in whole or part, is left open. His conversion to or from Latvian Orthodox was not genuine, so this has little bearing on this beliefs/hertiage/ethnicity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.214.146.145 (talk) 19:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

Patsy

the article says that Art Vandelay is george's patsy, which the linked article defines as someone you trick. This is not the correct word to describe Art Vandelay is it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.173.242.14 (talk) 01:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

Ricky Gervais?

Why is Ricky Gervais listed at the top of the page as calling George the greatest sitcom character of all time? Hes just another comedian/television personality, and should'nt be said to have a say in the Wikipedia article (maybe in a George Costanza trivia section), unless Time or some official magazine or news source has listed him, that shouldn't be up there. I'm deleting it, put it back if you have a good reason for it.--74.135.48.18 00:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Why is this article longer than the entire Seinfeld article? The quote provides a verifiable assessment of the character's significance, and adds context. The alternative would be some mealy-mouthed and unsourced wibble about him being "widely regarded as one of the most memorable characters in sitcom history".

That said, I have no problem with it being moved to a "Critical Reaction" section if one's ever started.

At any rate, the quote is more of an introduction than any of the following six paragraphs, which belong in the body of the article:

The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, explaining why the subject is interesting or notable

chocolateboy 02:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Lists of Jobs

It says that George was a bra salseman, but he lost it within seconds of getting it, does it really count?