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It's impossibly juvenile here and the local rabble gets very catty if you question the group-think. Wikipedia is busy undermining its own credibility. I'm so happy I've found [[http://www.conservapedia.com|Conservapedia]]. [[User:ElderStatesman|ElderStatesman]] 12:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{{nosubst|ElderStatesman}}}|talk page of this case]]. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, [[Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry/Notes_for_the_accuser|read this]] for detailed instructions.''
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{{{icon|[[Image:Information.svg|25px|left]] }}}Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles{{{{{subst|}}}#if:Jesus as myth|, as you did to [[:Jesus as myth]]}}. Doing so violates Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view policy]] and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. {{{2|Thank you.}}}<!-- {{uw-npov2}} --> [[User:Orangemarlin|Orangemarlin]] 21:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Sockpuppetry ==

You are currently being accused by several editors of being a sockpuppet. The tag is placed on your user page, and it is not vandalism. The tag was placed by an administrator [[User:FeloniousMonk|Felonious Monk]]. You cannot remove the tag until the case has been resolved. See [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry]] for more information. Do not leave nonsense comments, especially ones making false accusations of vandalism on user pages. If you want to discuss something use [[User talk:Orangemarlin]]. I know you know better. [[User:Orangemarlin|Orangemarlin]] 22:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

==3RR Warning==

{{{icon|[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|left]] }}}You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|&#32; according to the reverts you have made on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. If you continue, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. Please do not [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|repeatedly revert edits]], but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. {{{2|Thank you.}}}<!-- {{uw-3rr}} -->. Please stop reverting your sockpuppet tag. [[User:Orangemarlin|Orangemarlin]] 22:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

==slang->ethnonym-"racial term"==

Hi; please see [[Talk:Chinaman (racial term)]]. Though you've probably noticed them just wondering about the ethnonym/racial term dispute now; "does he ever stop?". It's amazing that, even with ample evidence of official and casual use, his new article doesn't mention any of that, except for the 1913 Webster's. Some people need to keep their head in the sand I guess; but for now that he's been forced to conceded that inoffensive uses are possible it's a start; but I still don't like the new title and will work to change it; I may just do it later myself, although it now may take an admin to do it as there's already been one namechange on the newpage. I like your points, and like others made by others in a similar vein, he either can't answer them or answers with red-herring questions/definition-restakings. [[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] 00:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Right... ==

Hmm. I've been asked to look at you. As yet, I see no evidence you're a sockpuppet of a banned user, beyond slight similarity of interests. You have, perhaps, edited [[Jesus as myth]] in order to make a point about [[Intelligent design]] - don't do that, it's a violation of [[WP:POINT]], but seem alright. [[User:Orangemarlin]] and [[User:FeloniousMonk]] aren't actually vandalising you, but I think they're mistaken in their belief.

Well, anyway. I don't see any evidence you've done anything badly wrong, so just... act sensibly and try to work with people, and don't ddo things just to make a point. Good luck! [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Adam, as I posted before, there is a process to remove the Sockpuppet tag. This editor is a suspect, not confirmed. And the process must be completed before he removes the tag. I was tagged once by a Raspor sockpuppet, and I waited for the process to finish, which in my case took about an hour. An admin removed the tag. Your opinion, right now, weighs as much as mine, and I think we should pass judgement after the process has run its course. FM placed the tag, and has once again reverted ElderStatesman's removal of the tag. We shall see. I've seen this process before, and he is repeating exactly what was done by one of Raspor's sockpuppets. I'm more suspicious now than ever. [[User:Orangemarlin|Orangemarlin]] 03:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well compare his contribution history to that of [[User:Everwill]], indefinitely banned from the project:

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=Everwill&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=0 Main space contributions of Everwill]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=ElderStatesman&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=0 Main space contributions of ElderStatesman]

User:ElderStatesman is clearly a sock puppet of Everwill, his contribution history matches Everwills exactly. [[WP:SOCK]] says "''Do not use multiple accounts to circumvent a block.''" It also says "''Accounts operating in violation of this policy should be blocked indefinitely; the main account may be blocked at the discretion of any administrator.''" ElderStatesman is clearly evading a community ban and per [[WP:SOCK]] is to be blocked for circumventing a ban. [[User:FeloniousMonk|FeloniousMonk]] 04:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


This discussion is preposterous, but don't worry. You don't have to work that hard. I'll just stop contributing. [[User:ElderStatesman|ElderStatesman]] 13:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 12:45, 4 April 2007

It's impossibly juvenile here and the local rabble gets very catty if you question the group-think. Wikipedia is busy undermining its own credibility. I'm so happy I've found [[1]]. ElderStatesman 12:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]