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The '''''Number 68''''' ({{zh|t=六十八號|p=Liùshíbā Hào}}), also known as the ''Monfalcone large cruiser'', was a planned, unique, [[armored cruiser]] ordered for the [[Republic of China Navy]]. The ship was never completed due to the start of [[World War I]] and were eventually scrapped. The ship was not given a name, being known only the yard construction number, 68.
The '''''Number 68''''' ({{zh|t=六十八號|p=Liùshíbā Hào}}), also known as the ''Monfalcone large cruiser'', was a planned, unique, [[armored cruiser]] ordered for the [[Republic of China Navy]]. The ship was never completed due to the start of [[World War I]] and was eventually scrapped. The ship was not given a name, being known only the yard construction number, 68.


==Background==
==Background==
{{Main|Number 64-class cruiser}}


In 1911, the new fledgling [[Provisional Government of the Republic of China (1912)|Provisional Government of the Republic of China]] had inherited a small, obsolete navy from the former [[Qing Dynasty]], who had been in the midst of a naval rearmament, dubbed the "New Fleet Programme" since 1910 until the [[Xinhai Revolution]] overthrew 268 year old [[Manchu]] rule. The new [[Yuan Shikai]]-led government soon embarked on acquiring a loan of $125 million dollars from the six [[great power]]s to stabilize the shaky economy and to rearm the Republic of China Navy. While funding for the already under construction [[Fu Bo-class destroyer]]s, two of the three [[Chao Ho-class cruiser]]s was tentatively secured by 1913, several ships under construction that had been ordered under the previous Qing government were sold off, the light cruiser [[Greek cruiser Elli (1912)|Fei Hong]]({{zh|s=飛鴻|l=Flying Swan|p=Féi Hóng|w=Fei Hung}}) was sold to the [[Kingdom of Greece]], and the destroyers [[SMS Warasdiner|Lung Tuan]] ({{zh|s=龙湍|l=Dragon Rapids|p=Lóng Tuān|w=Lung Tuan}}) and [[Italian destroyer Ascaro|Ching Po]] ({{zh|s=鲸波|l=Whale Wave|p=Jīng Bō|w=Ching Po}}) were sold to [[Austria-Hungary]] and the [[Kingdom of Utaly]] respectively. One of the few diplomatic successes was a counter-proposal from Arnhold, Karsberg & C., based in [[Berlin]] but active in China since 1866, for a loan for torpedoes. This relationship quickly continued into March 1913
In 1911, the new fledgling [[Provisional Government of the Republic of China (1912)|Provisional Government of the Republic of China]] had inherited a small, obsolete navy from the former [[Qing Dynasty]], who had been in the midst of a naval rearmament, dubbed the "New Fleet Programme" since 1910 until the [[Xinhai Revolution]] overthrew 268 year old [[Manchu]] rule. The new [[Yuan Shikai]]-led government soon embarked on acquiring a loan of $125 million dollars from the six [[great power]]s to stabilize the shaky economy and to rearm the Republic of China Navy. While funding for the already under construction [[Fu Bo-class destroyer]]s, two of the three [[Chao Ho-class cruiser]]s was tentatively secured by 1913, several ships under construction that had been ordered under the previous Qing government were sold off, the light cruiser [[Greek cruiser Elli (1912)|Fei Hong]]({{zh|s=飛鴻|l=Flying Swan|p=Féi Hóng|w=Fei Hung}}) was sold to the [[Kingdom of Greece]], and the destroyers [[SMS Warasdiner|Lung Tuan]] ({{zh|s=龙湍|l=Dragon Rapids|p=Lóng Tuān|w=Lung Tuan}}) and [[Italian destroyer Ascaro|Ching Po]] ({{zh|s=鲸波|l=Whale Wave|p=Jīng Bō|w=Ching Po}}) were sold to [[Austria-Hungary]] and the [[Kingdom of Italy]] respectively. One of the few diplomatic successes was a counter-proposal from [[Arnhold Holdings Ltd.|Arnhold, Karberg & C.]], based in [[Berlin]] but active in China since 1866, for a loan for torpedoes. This relationship continued into March 1913 with Arnhold, Karberg & C. eventually bringing in arms manufacturer [[Škoda Works]] of [[Plzeň|Pilsen]] and three Austrian banks for a two loans consolidated of £3,200,000. The first loan of £1,200,000 would be for six [[destroyer]]s from [[AG Vulcan Stettin]] and twelve smaller destroyers from [[Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino]] (STT). The second loan of £2,000,000 would be for artillery from Škoda. The terms of the new loan were harsher than the original $125 million loan from the great powers, with 6% interest and to be paid off completely in four years.


Immediately after signing the agreement though, the Chinese Navy, under [[Liu Guanxiong]] became convinced that cruisers would be better to acquire than destroyers and on June 13, submitted a request for three 4,900 ton cruisers armed with four 203mm guns. AG Vulcan immediately backed out of the deal as it was uninterested in building cruisers, while STT was uninterested in building the small destroyers. In order to salvage such a large deal, Škoda became a majority shareholder of the new [[Cantiere Navale Triestino]] (CNT) in [[Monfalcone]] to fulfill the order. On June 27, 1913, the director general of Škoda informed the Chinese government that the first loan was reduced to £870,000, which would only be enough to build one large cruiser rather than three. Škoda recommended that instead, for the same amount of money, CNT could build three, small 1,800 ton cruisers. While initially this was rejected by the Chinese Navy, after additional funds from renegotiating the £2,000,000 loan for artillery became available. On August 26, 1913 an agreement on the terms of the first loan was made, for three 1,800 ton cruisers which would become the [[Number 64-class cruiser]]s. The agreement on the second loan was made on October 20, 1913 for thirty six [[field gun]]s and seventy two [[mountain gun]]s from Skoda, and one 4,800 ton cruiser built to a revised specification.
On 10 October 1911 in [[China]], the [[Xinhai Revolution]] marked the beginning of the end of the [[Manchu]] [[Qing dynasty]], which had ruled China for 268 years. The five year-old [[Puyi|Xuantong Emperor]] was forced to abdicate and a new, [[Republic of China (1912–49)]] was established on 12 February 1912, with general [[Yuan Shikai]] as [[President of the Republic of China|president]]. As the revolution grew in strength and territory, the Qing government had been in the midst of a naval rearmament programme to modernise the [[Imperial Chinese Navy]]. This naval rearmament, dubbed the "New Fleet Programme", was started in 1910 under the newly appointed Naval minister, [[Zaixun, Prince Rui]] and called for the acquisitions of modern warships from abroad, and the reorganisation of the existing [[Beiyang Fleet|Beiyang]], [[Nanyang Fleet|Nanyang]], [[Guangdong Fleet|Guangdong]] and [[Fujian Fleet|Fujian]] fleets. Three [[protected cruiser]]s of the {{Sclass|Zhào Hé|cruiser|4}} were nearly complete and the lead ship of the {{Sclass|Yù Zhāng|destroyer|4}} [[destroyer]]s had been launched by the time the Emperor abdicated on 12 February 1912.

==Construction & Design==


With the end of the Qing, the new [[Provisional Government of the Republic of China (1912)|Provisional Government of the Republic of China]], soon found itself with the same problem confronting the Qing. The newly reformed [[Republic of China Navy]], was in a decrepit state, with many of her ships in disrepair. It was because of this that the new [[Navy Minister of the Republic of China]], [[admiral]] [[Liu Guanxiong]], renegotiated the terms for the ships that were ordered by the previous Qing government. These renegotiations lasted until 1914, with the {{ship|Chinese cruiser|Zhào Hé||2}} and {{ship|Chinese cruiser|Yīng Ruì||2}} eventually being transferred to the Chinese government. The Chinese were unable to renegotiate the financial terms for the American built ''Fēi Hóng'' with [[Bethlehem Steel]], the ship was eventually sold to the [[Kingdom of Greece]] as the {{ship|Greek cruiser|Elli||2}}. Construction of the {{ship|Chinese destroyer|Lóng Tuān||2}} continued at [[Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino]] (STT) in [[Trieste]] while the {{ship|Chinese destroyer|Jīng Bō||2}} was transferred to the [[Royal Italian Navy]] in 1912 when half-built for use in the [[Italo-Turkish War]]. Jīng Bō was subsequently renamed {{ship|Italian destroyer|Ascaro||2}}. An order for [[Yǒng Fēng-class gunboat|two enlarged]] {{ship|Japanese gunboat|Saga||2}} [[gunboat]]s from [[Kawasaki Shipbuilding Corporation|Kawasaki]] in [[Kobe]], was also settled. With the American re-negotiations still being settled, the new Yuan Shikai administration had been concurrently attempting to negotiate a $125 million dollar loan from the six [[world powers]] in order to stabilize the fledgling Chinese economy and rearm the military, in particular for the construction of six [[destroyer]]s from [[AG Vulcan Stettin]] in [[German Empire|Germany]] and [[Huszár-class destroyer|twelve small destroyers]] from [[Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino]] (STT) in [[Austria-Hungary]]. Negotiations with the consortium continued but by 1913 the talks had failed.


Eventually, the Chinese government structured a consolidated loan of £3,200,000 with the [[Berlin]] based [[Arnhold Holdings Ltd.|Arnhold, Karberg & Co.]], at 6% interest to be paid in four years by 31 March 1913. Several arms producing companies, also represented by Arnhold, Karberg & Co., were part of the consolidated loan, particularly [[Škoda Works]], of [[Plzeň]] who provided £500,000. Through Arnhold, Karberg & Co. agents, the Chinese government quickly arranged for two contracts for twelve more ''Lóng Tuān'' destroyers from STT for £198,000 and six destroyers from Stettin for £1,200,000 by 10 April 1913. Three months later on June 1913, Admiral Liu and the Navy ministry became increasingly interested in acquiring cruisers with the remains of the loan and on June 1913, specified a request for three cruisers of 4,900 ton, [[light cruiser]], armed with four {{convert|203|mm|in|adj=on}} guns.


==See also==
==See also==

Revision as of 18:15, 11 July 2024

Number 68
Class overview
Operators
Preceded byNumber 64 class (planned)
Succeeded byNing Hai class
Built1915
Planned1
Completed0
Cancelled1
History
Republic of China
NameNumber 68
BuilderCantiere Navale Triestino, Monfalcone, Austria-Hungary
Cost£880,000
Yard number68
Laid down15 April 1915
FateCancelled
General characteristics
Typearmored cruiser
Displacement4,900 tons (standard)
Length136.5 m (448 ft)
Beam14.65 m (48.1 ft)
Draught4.88 m (16.0 ft)
Propulsion
Speed28 knots (52 km/h)
Range3,000 nautical miles (5,560 km) at 13 knots (24 km/h)
Armament
Armour

The Number 68 (Chinese: 六十八號; pinyin: Liùshíbā Hào), also known as the Monfalcone large cruiser, was a planned, unique, armored cruiser ordered for the Republic of China Navy. The ship was never completed due to the start of World War I and was eventually scrapped. The ship was not given a name, being known only the yard construction number, 68.

Background

In 1911, the new fledgling Provisional Government of the Republic of China had inherited a small, obsolete navy from the former Qing Dynasty, who had been in the midst of a naval rearmament, dubbed the "New Fleet Programme" since 1910 until the Xinhai Revolution overthrew 268 year old Manchu rule. The new Yuan Shikai-led government soon embarked on acquiring a loan of $125 million dollars from the six great powers to stabilize the shaky economy and to rearm the Republic of China Navy. While funding for the already under construction Fu Bo-class destroyers, two of the three Chao Ho-class cruisers was tentatively secured by 1913, several ships under construction that had been ordered under the previous Qing government were sold off, the light cruiser Fei Hong(Chinese: 飛鴻; pinyin: Féi Hóng; Wade–Giles: Fei Hung; lit. 'Flying Swan') was sold to the Kingdom of Greece, and the destroyers Lung Tuan (Chinese: 龙湍; pinyin: Lóng Tuān; Wade–Giles: Lung Tuan; lit. 'Dragon Rapids') and Ching Po (Chinese: 鲸波; pinyin: Jīng Bō; Wade–Giles: Ching Po; lit. 'Whale Wave') were sold to Austria-Hungary and the Kingdom of Italy respectively. One of the few diplomatic successes was a counter-proposal from Arnhold, Karberg & C., based in Berlin but active in China since 1866, for a loan for torpedoes. This relationship continued into March 1913 with Arnhold, Karberg & C. eventually bringing in arms manufacturer Škoda Works of Pilsen and three Austrian banks for a two loans consolidated of £3,200,000. The first loan of £1,200,000 would be for six destroyers from AG Vulcan Stettin and twelve smaller destroyers from Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino (STT). The second loan of £2,000,000 would be for artillery from Škoda. The terms of the new loan were harsher than the original $125 million loan from the great powers, with 6% interest and to be paid off completely in four years.

Immediately after signing the agreement though, the Chinese Navy, under Liu Guanxiong became convinced that cruisers would be better to acquire than destroyers and on June 13, submitted a request for three 4,900 ton cruisers armed with four 203mm guns. AG Vulcan immediately backed out of the deal as it was uninterested in building cruisers, while STT was uninterested in building the small destroyers. In order to salvage such a large deal, Škoda became a majority shareholder of the new Cantiere Navale Triestino (CNT) in Monfalcone to fulfill the order. On June 27, 1913, the director general of Škoda informed the Chinese government that the first loan was reduced to £870,000, which would only be enough to build one large cruiser rather than three. Škoda recommended that instead, for the same amount of money, CNT could build three, small 1,800 ton cruisers. While initially this was rejected by the Chinese Navy, after additional funds from renegotiating the £2,000,000 loan for artillery became available. On August 26, 1913 an agreement on the terms of the first loan was made, for three 1,800 ton cruisers which would become the Number 64-class cruisers. The agreement on the second loan was made on October 20, 1913 for thirty six field guns and seventy two mountain guns from Skoda, and one 4,800 ton cruiser built to a revised specification.

Construction & Design

See also

Notes