Talk:John Christy

Former global warming supporter...

This is apparently a new category that has been created. Can we please establish that Christy really is a sceptic who has formerly been a supporter first? Otherwise that part is WP:OR. I agree that Christy is somewhat sceptical - but i don't think (from what i've read) that he has ever been anything other. --Kim D. Petersen 15:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

He used to contribute to IPCC reports as a "Lead Author", of which, the IPCC maintains a supporting view.--Zeeboid 15:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

But he has exactly the same opinion before being a lead author as he had afterwards. At least that is my reading of his writings. He is btw. not a sceptic in the Timothy Ball sense - Christy does believe that global warming is happening - he is just contesting how large and how important. You could call him a Kyoto sceptic - but not really an AGW sceptic.

Please read a bit of his writings. (otoh Spencer his assistant is a sceptic. --Kim D. Petersen 18:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Whats with the satalite info

I'm not sure why this information exists for an article on a scientist.--Zeeboid 21:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The section I'm refering to is this:

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The climate trend shown by the UAH satellite data has changed through time, due to corrections in the processing and as the climate has varied. During the first several years of data collection the global trend was downward. That has since changed and the most recent long-term average global climate trend seen in the satellite data is +0.14 C (about 0.25° Fahrenheit) per decade.

Unlike some other major climate data sets, the satellite data are constantly being refined and adjusted as new discoveries are made in the relatively new science of remote sensing. Notable adjustments were made to compensate for the effects of orbital drift and orbital decay, and most recently to correct an arithmetic error. Christy and Spencer use intercalibration between instruments on different satellites to adjust for instrument bias, then try to validate their data by comparing it to data gathered by weather balloons and surface stations.

A native of Fresno, CA (where he learned to pan for gold), Christy was a missionary in Kenya for two years. After earning his divinity degree he founded a Southern Baptist church in South Dakota before pursuing a career in science and teaching.

--Zeeboid 21:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Because the satellite data is JC's major work; and its what he is known for. It would be weird to have a page on him without mentioning it (comtrast, for example, the Fred Singer page which doesn't really spend any time on Singers actual work) William M. Connolley 09:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Is this HIS satellite data?--Zeeboid 14:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Is reading the figure caption beyond you? William M. Connolley 19:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Appearances section

Quick answer to why not: not Wikipedia:Notable,WP:NPOV,WP:SOAP and finally you shouldn't add a movie link to all cast-members.

If we had to add every appearance of someone in a movie/documentary/whatever to a section called 'Appearances' - then it would very quickly fill up articles on people.

Now there are of course some movies/documentaries etc. that should be mentioned for people such as John Christy - but i fail to see that this movie would fall into such a category... Its a television movie (albeith controversial) that has been shown on one television channel in the UK - how does this make it notable for John Christy? Or Patrick Michaels? Or Paul Reiter? Or .... any of the others that you've added this to?

For Christy there is already a mention of this movie - which makes it even stranger to put such a section in.

Sorry but you are trying to push a POV here - and its quite obvious. --Kim D. Petersen 23:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Kim, I'm not talking about including the appearance of everyone in the documentary, i.e., I wouldn't include the names (if they were known) of the sunbathers on the beach in one segment. Or the students who assisted the scientist in launching a weather balloon in another.

I have clicked on the names of the contributors who participated in the film, and added on their bio that they made an appearance in the documentary. How is that POV? --Dean1970 02:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but that explanation is rather weak - you are (almost) including every person that is in the movie - except innocent bystanders who where caught in the camera's view. And you still haven't responded to any of the other things i pointed out. --Kim D. Petersen 02:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Let me explain the fact. Christy contributed to the docu. Who do you think you are to tell someone they can't add that in here?--Dean1970 02:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

He also contributed to a countless of other documentaries/tv productions/interviews how does this one differ? You have to adhere to Wikipedia:Notable - why is this particular tv production so specifically interesting? Especially on this page - where its already mentioned - with a direct quote and timestamp in the movie? --Kim D. Petersen

02:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Kim, its wikilinked at the foot of the page! In the reference part! What is the big deal mentioning his appearance in this documentary? If the documentary is as your friends claim "controversial" and the word "propaganda" has been banded about, why would you object to some reference of Christy appearing in it in the article itself? --Dean1970 06:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Give me a reason for that particular movie to be placed more prominently, or even for that particular movie to be interesting to an international audience (hint: Its a UK television movie - that has been shown only on one channel in the UK). Christy has a lot of accomplishments and appearances that are quite a bit more prominent, notable and interesting. For instance i don't think that all of his Senate/Congress appearances are mentioned - nor is all of his papers or books - Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia (correct) but it is also not a place to put every little information. You actually have to weight things - and TGGWS is not very heavy on any scale... The quote and the reference is there because its succinct - it describes Christy's attitute (as seen in lots of places) quite well. --Kim D. Petersen 11:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Here is one. please view other wiki articles with scientists who appeared in that documentery. a president has been set.--75.134.134.160 03:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)