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:I think we should call it WikiProject Anthropmorphism, but this will involve moving the WikiProject. [[User:ISD|ISD]] 18:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think we should call it WikiProject Anthropmorphism, but this will involve moving the WikiProject. [[User:ISD|ISD]] 18:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

: Well, hmm. Can't say I personally like it, but setting that aside, it's probably for the best to rename it Anthro as opposed to Furry... ...unless we're talking the culture, or the subject matter. [[User:Bengaley|Bengaley]] 20:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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The First Step...?

What should the first step here be? Identifying all the articles that should be covered under WikiProject Furry, I presume?

I also assume that we'd want to format all the articles to be relativly uniform...Bengaley 17:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've started by looking up featured and good articles and listing them in the WikiProject. One problem I've faced is articles about computer games. For example, the article about the character, Sonic the Hedgehog has been included, but should the games be included as well, and if so, should all of them be mentioned.
Another problem is the Pokémon article. There are articles about some Pokémon, such as the Eevee article, which as classed as Good Articles. Should all the articles on Pokemon be included, or just species, or just the Pokémon article? ISD 08:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That brings up the question of, what exactly is 'Furry'? I consider myself Inclusionist, both as a Wikipedian and as a Furry, but I am hesitant to add Pokemon as under this WP. While I do agree that Pokemon art is rampant throughout the fandom, that in of itself is not enough, in my mind. However, a reasonbly well constructed and thought out argument can convince me, and regardless of my personal feelings, I'm going to let this one be until more of 'us' chime in. RIght now, it's just 3 of us... Bengaley 14:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This wikiproject has not even expanded enough to supprt basic work. The level of inclusion being thought of now would demand not just a huge WP but the creation of Task Forces within the project. I recommend we avoid just "staking claim" to already good content and instead focus more on the traditional furry subjects and articles that truely need the attention. I've got into more depth below. NeoFreak 17:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scope

The question of scope has started to be addressed above but I think a dedicated discussion is needed. While "furry fandom" is often thought to contain anything that features anthropomorphism to declare this as the scope of the project will destroy any true focus the project has. Without having a level of dedication and the number of editors that the Military History Wikiproject has this level of inclusion is counter productive. As the project grows and proves to be active the scope can be expanded without losing any of the focued benefits of a wikiproject. Already articles such as "Calvin and Hobbes", "Sonic the Hedgehog" and "Pokemon" are being brought under the scope of the Project. I have some fears that these are being brought into the project only in the interest of establishing a expansive scope and to tie the project to already established FA and GA content. This kind of content is on the periphery of the subject and already much better covered by other Projects (WP Comics and WP Video Games).

This WP needs to decide early what its scope will include and focus on articles and subjects that need attention, not just bringing already good articles "into the fold". There is a vast array of traditional "furry" material already on Wikipedia that is in desperate need of attention. Let's focus on improving lacking material before planting flags on established work. I would recommend finding sources for the hundreds of articles on furry comics, writers, conventions, fictional characters, more obscure movies, the fandom itself, etc. I'd also recommend narrowing the focus to avoid being inclusive of 90% of animtated movies and video games out there. Thoughts? NeoFreak 17:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried expanding the scope to include several articles already covered. I do think that task forces would be a good idea, but I think we should wait until more people join the project first. ISD 17:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I'm saying. No offense inteneded but I think you need to reread my post. NeoFreak 20:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the project

I should have caught this earlier and can't believe I didn't: the name the of the project. The name of the project is basicly tied to a slang term or a group of people, "furries". This is like naming the Star Trek wikiproject "Wikiproject Trekkies". It needs to be decided if this project is going to be about the furry community or about the focus of the community: anthropomorphism. The more inclusive scope is of course anthropomorphism, both in terms of subject material and attracing other editors here, and I already see the scope of the project being shifted that way. This is something that needs to be laid out before wee really get around to incorporating material. NeoFreak 17:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should call it WikiProject Anthropmorphism, but this will involve moving the WikiProject. ISD 18:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, hmm. Can't say I personally like it, but setting that aside, it's probably for the best to rename it Anthro as opposed to Furry... ...unless we're talking the culture, or the subject matter. Bengaley 20:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]