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*Thanks to [[user:RickK]] and [[user:CesarB]] for trying to fix this mess. The editor, [[user:Softcafe|Softcafe]], did all the wrong things for perhaps a somewhat right reason. I think that "Don Black" is a sufficiently common name, and the one Black has sufficiently high notoriety, that having a disambiguation page, even with only a few instances, may help inform our readers and prevent confusion. Lastly, I notice that there may be a (barely) notable profesor (Don V. Black) with verifiable information.[http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dblack/] Maybe the article "[[Don Black (non-notable person)]]" could be moved to [[Don Black (physicist)]] and I'll see if I can dig together enough of Dr. Black's discoveries and facts to make a decent stub. I am familiar with the milieu of the more famous Don Black, though I've barely edited that article. "Racist" would be a POV description, but I believe the "Racialist" may be appropriate. It is on a par with "Nationalist", though slightly different, and is sometimes used by [racists] to describe themselves. However "activist" seems to be an NPOV term for similar subjects (e.g. [[Bill White (activist)]]) so I suggest '''moving''' [[Don Black (racialist)]] to [[Don Black (activist)]]. -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 07:40, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC) |
*Thanks to [[user:RickK]] and [[user:CesarB]] for trying to fix this mess. The editor, [[user:Softcafe|Softcafe]], did all the wrong things for perhaps a somewhat right reason. I think that "Don Black" is a sufficiently common name, and the one Black has sufficiently high notoriety, that having a disambiguation page, even with only a few instances, may help inform our readers and prevent confusion. Lastly, I notice that there may be a (barely) notable profesor (Don V. Black) with verifiable information.[http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dblack/] Maybe the article "[[Don Black (non-notable person)]]" could be moved to [[Don Black (physicist)]] and I'll see if I can dig together enough of Dr. Black's discoveries and facts to make a decent stub. I am familiar with the milieu of the more famous Don Black, though I've barely edited that article. "Racist" would be a POV description, but I believe the "Racialist" may be appropriate. It is on a par with "Nationalist", though slightly different, and is sometimes used by [racists] to describe themselves. However "activist" seems to be an NPOV term for similar subjects (e.g. [[Bill White (activist)]]) so I suggest '''moving''' [[Don Black (racialist)]] to [[Don Black (activist)]]. -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 07:40, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC) |
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"Don Black (activist)" will require another level of disambiguation, since the "Don Black (non-notable person)" may consider himself an activist, and lead to more activity. The "Don Black (racialist)" is most appropriate, as noted above. |
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Revision as of 07:48, 17 June 2005
Don Black and Don Black (non-notable person)
Article fails to establish notability. The User has moved Don Black (nationalist) to [[Don Black (racist}]] and then added this non-notable person and tried to create a disambiguation page. RickK 06:41, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
- "Don Black, a self-described racialist and former leader of the Ku Klux Klan." - Stormfront
He has now moved the article under Vfd to Don Black (non-notable person) and the other article to Don Black (racialist). RickK 07:07, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
- "Don Black, a self-described racialist and former leader of the Ku Klux Klan." - Stormfront. The individual uses the term to describe himself. The term "nationalist" is an obfuscation of "white nationalist". The proper term is "racist", and is the appropriate disambiguation discriminator for the topic heading. Without proper disambiguation, the entire "Don Black" entry and sub-entries should be deleted.
- Perhaps the fact that this person is non-notable is his most notable aspect, and representative of a segment of society unrepresented on Wikipedia. I vote keep it online.
- Thanks to user:RickK and user:CesarB for trying to fix this mess. The editor, Softcafe, did all the wrong things for perhaps a somewhat right reason. I think that "Don Black" is a sufficiently common name, and the one Black has sufficiently high notoriety, that having a disambiguation page, even with only a few instances, may help inform our readers and prevent confusion. Lastly, I notice that there may be a (barely) notable profesor (Don V. Black) with verifiable information.[1] Maybe the article "Don Black (non-notable person)" could be moved to Don Black (physicist) and I'll see if I can dig together enough of Dr. Black's discoveries and facts to make a decent stub. I am familiar with the milieu of the more famous Don Black, though I've barely edited that article. "Racist" would be a POV description, but I believe the "Racialist" may be appropriate. It is on a par with "Nationalist", though slightly different, and is sometimes used by [racists] to describe themselves. However "activist" seems to be an NPOV term for similar subjects (e.g. Bill White (activist)) so I suggest moving Don Black (racialist) to Don Black (activist). -Willmcw 07:40, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
"Don Black (activist)" will require another level of disambiguation, since the "Don Black (non-notable person)" may consider himself an activist, and lead to more activity. The "Don Black (racialist)" is most appropriate, as noted above.