Talk:Linking and intrusive R

Summary in Plain English

If an introduction were included using plain english without any linguistic terms or symbols, which explained both linking and intrusive r clearly and simply, it would put the rest of the article in context and be very informative.

Also, explaining things like Non-rhotic and specific dialects for specific areas would be helpful. I have seen that in the central and southern parts of the US, r is added in a word when there is an a in the word, even when it is followed by a constant. Sometimes this happens in Boston, too. Other times, it is the r at the end of a word with an A, when next word leads with a vowel. I noticed Cat Deeley on So You Think You Can Dance, did this a lot.

An discussion on whether this is considered proper or uneducated or colloquial would be interesting and helpful. I was surprised to here and announcer on a national tv program use the r that way. It sounded ignorant to me.

I don't understand the explination for when an R is inserted in the middle of a word. For example, the page says if the next word does not begin with a vowel, the R in here would not be pronounced. But what about words that contain an 'A' and an r is inserted, such as wash, even if the next letter is not a vowel. Also, where is it that here is pronounced he; I have never heard that and would be interested in knowing.

Usually this all follows an "a" in a word, not any vowel. Wash, Linda, idea, etc. Does it exist with words other than A? Alpinebixby 18:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpinebixby (talk • contribs) 18:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Linking R vs. Intrusive R

This article is incorrect. Linking R and Intrusive R are quite different. The former is considered correct in all non-rhotic English dialects, the latter is considered an error. The example given is an example of intrusive R, an example of linking R would be "where is" /we@r Iz/ whereas "where" alone would be pronouned /we@/. — Hippietrail 00:24, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What is "considered" correct or incorrect is irrelevant. Not all nonrhotic accents have linking R, and not all accents that have linking R have intrusive R. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 16:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Pawler Abdul

Heh... It used to kill me how one of my NY college buddies would say "Pawler Abdul" (Paula Abdul).

The intrusive 'r' it is, I guess. :)

Roodog2k 19:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Examples?

I personally would understand better with a list of examples (like Pawler Abdul). I put a few up but more would be good. 147.154.235.53 14:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Such as the squaRsh and waRsh. Those drive me nuts. Being from the midwest I have a "general American" accent and can't pronounce things with the intruding R to save my life lol. Breezy hwesta 16:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

More examples in other languages

Other examples of linking consonants are the euphonic -t- and l' in some French expressions.

Also, many languages insert a glide at the beginning of words which start with a vowel, to break up hiatuses. FilipeS

Not sure I understand what you're referring to (in French). Zigzig20s 12:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

For example:

A-t-il donc un frère ?

C'est ce que l'on dit.

These are linking consonants. FilipeS 19:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Examples

I have reduced the lists of examples. The general concept is quite clearly explained in the text with a couple of examples of intrusive and linking R. No point in listing endless examples. I have reduced the list to recordings etc, where the example relates to a published (?) source. OK? Snalwibma 13:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. I just thought that since the intrusive r section had a sub-section with examples, so should the linking r section...It just would make it easier to read I think - although I agree that the text is fairly straightforward. Zigzig20s 13:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)