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If I left you a message on your talk page, please reply there -- it's helpful to keep the conversation all in one place. Similarly, if you leave a question or comment for me on my talk page, please watch this page, as I will reply here. I try to answer everything very promptly, so if it's been more than a week and I haven't posted that I'm on wikibreak, leave me a reminder here.

Also, links to relevant articles are very much appreciated. Thanks! -- [[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]]



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== [[Polytetrafluoroethylene (data page)]] redirect ==

Please see [[:template:chembox new]]. This page is an overspill from the main PTFE article which means that the infobox on that article can be kept to a reasonable length. I've reverted this redirect. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham]] 10:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for cluing me in! I've left a couple of comments in [[:Wikipedia talk:Chemical infobox]] about some issues with [[:template:chembox new]]. I'll also add a comment to [[:Polytetrafluoroethylene (data page)]] to help prevent others from making the same assumption I did. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 14:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

==[[Boston Red Sox all-time roster]]==
Hello FT!
Don't worry, please. Your Firefox is fine (I work with Mac OS X, too). Let me explain something to you. When I created the page I tried to kept it simple, listing only players who had (or not) wikipedia pages. As I understand it, a ''list'' article is the place to create a comprehensive, ideally annotated, list of every item/individual in a category where the list has a value in and of itself. But the problem came after a wiki user added a country flag for each player. Can you imagine? 1500-plus flags, one after the other. I actually agree. At first the changes looked a little extreme, but I'm finding them to be beneficial. I can't say I like the new style for this page, having it broken up into individual columns, but I think this will make it most comprehensive, describes the major aesthetic image elements. Note I also replaced each '''bold''' Hall of Famer with an asterisk, and two players were removed: Joe Shidall (never played for the BoSox) and Ben Sypher, definitely a joke (a Guatemalan major leaguer?). As for today, the list of BoSox all-timers is complete and updated: 1557 players; Baseball Reference reports 1556, but do not includes J.C. Romero [http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/bat.shtml *]. I still working on this page, creating at least a stub for every player. I know is a hard work but would be more easy if somebody want to help me and share the work. it's good to see someone else working on filling in the baseball gaps. Keep up the good work! Cheers. [[User:MusiCitizen|MusiCitizen]] 22:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, it's been nice seeing I'm not the only one toiling away on these rosters. :)

:I'm thinking we need to revisit the all-time roster standards discussion at the baseball project, because I'm finding a number of formatting issues that weren't addressed the first time around. Some pages have flags, most don't. Some pages have columns, some don't. There are other issues that don't come to mind at the moment. I'll jot them down over the next week or so, and let you know when I post something for discussion (unless you beat me to it. *grin*) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 22:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

==Congratulations!==
You are now an administrator! Welcome aboard! [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 00:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the welcome! --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 00:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
: Woo!! Congratulations, indeed :) - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family: comic sans ms">'''A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 00:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
::Congrats! Be good! :) '''[[User:LaraLove|<font color="000000">Lara</font>]][[User talk:LaraLove|<font color="FF1493">Love</font>]]''' 15:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Congratulations. You are welcome.15:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| '''Cheers,<font color="#009500"> :) Dloh</font><font color="#950095">cierekim''' </font>]] 15:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yup, Big congratulations!! And no problem on the AWB front ;) [[User:Reedy Boy|Reedy Boy]] 18:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::Well done! I'm glad to see that you passed! Happy editing and keep up the great work! <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 19:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Woo hoo!! Congrats on becoming the newest admin. -[[User:Jj137|jj137]] <sup>[[User talk:Jj137|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jj137|Contribs]]</sup> 20:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::Congrats and thanks for the thankyou note...OMG! You copied-and-pasted the same note to loads of folk! cheers, [[User:Casliber|Casliber]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Casliber|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 23:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:::But ''your'' identical note was much more special than any of the others. ;-)--[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 00:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

==Richie S==
Played half a dozen games for the Cardinals. Pls revert your deletion--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 01:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Can you give me a clue what article and what player we're talking about? --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 12:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Could [[:Richie Scheinblum|this]] be the player you had in mind? I have absolutely NO clue why I missed the Cardinals line in baseball-reference.com. Good catch! (pun intended) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 17:43, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::You got it! Tx.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 02:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

==[[Joseph Coyetty]]==
And now I've retagged it as a copyvio from http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=933406. :) [[User:Corvus cornix|Corvus cornix]] 23:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:Good catch! (And I'm stealing your Jeopardy user box.) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 23:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::Not a problem, I was hoping other people would. When were you on? I was on around 1987, but I came in second. [[User:Corvus cornix|Corvus cornix]] 23:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Around 1995. Came in third but didn't miss a question. I just sucked at the buzzer. :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 23:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::::One of the categories was classical music, which has always been one of my downfalls. The guy who won ran the category. [[User:Corvus cornix|Corvus cornix]] 23:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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==R. S. Neaville==
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A {{[[Template:prod|prod]]}} template has been added to the article [[R. S. Neaville]], suggesting that it be deleted according to the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion]] process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion|criteria for inclusion]], and the deletion notice explains why (see also "[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]]" and [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|Wikipedia's deletion policy]]). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the <code><nowiki>{{dated prod}}</nowiki></code> notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on [[Talk:R. S. Neaville|its talk page]]. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the [[WP:PROD|proposed deletion process]], the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion criteria]] or it can be sent to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for Deletion]], where it may be deleted if [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{tl|db-author}}. [[User:B. Wolterding|B. Wolterding]] 08:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Your request for adminship ==

You are very welcome for my support in your request for adminship. :) [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 18:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== False information ==

Sorry Fabrictramp, I had only tagged all those pages as "nonsense" because the information is completely false and has been made as a prank. There, in fact, exists no [[Durga Maa Telefilms]] company at all. A few users have made this to tease [[Balaji Telefilms]], one of the leading production companies on Indian television. Is there no way to remove those articles, as they are not true? Related pages, like [[Kkusumanjali]], is a spoof of the highly popular Indian shows [[Kkusum]] and [[Kavyanjali]]. [[Kanya (Hindi Serial)]], [[Keh Do Na]], and [[Kismat Kaa Khell]] all contain false information as well. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rdmt319|Rdmt319]] ([[User talk:Rdmt319|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rdmt319|contribs]]) 19:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I'd suggest tagging the articles with a <nowiki>{{hoax}}</nowiki> tag at the very least. (See [[:WP:HOAX#Dealing_with_hoaxes]]). The best way to get hoaxes into the deletion process is to take them to [[:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|AfD]]. The AfD page has great instructions if you've never done an AfD before. Hope that helps -- if not, feel free to ask! --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 19:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


== See-through frog ==

Fair enough - it seemed over the top at first glance, but thanks for the heads up... --[[User:Mhking|Mhking]] 22:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== Diagonal Intercept clipping ==

I know that wikipedia policies were being not being followed to the t in that article, but I was planning to write a complete article in due course, and this deletion seems waay too speedy. I will create than page again, but I was hoping that my incomplete page would not be deleted so fast, because I can't find the time to write the entire article at once, and would prefer to do it in bits and pieces. Any tips so that someone else does not delete my work-in-progress article? --[[User:Shreyasjoshis|Weedrat]] 04:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the deleted articles, the most content you had in any of them was just a reference (with no other content), which will get you speedied every time. :) If you need some time to develop an article to the stub stage, a great way to do that is to work on it in [[Wikipedia:Subpages#How_to_create_user_subpages|your sandbox]]. That way you can take all the time you need to get enough content to avoid the dreaded <nowiki>{{db-empty}}</nowiki> tag. (And I see from your talk page that others have suggested variations on the same idea).

:Before copying that stub to Wikipedia's main space, check out [[Wikipedia:Stub#Ideal_stub_article]] to make sure you've covered everything suggested there. Having written plenty of stub articles myself, I suggest that you have a strong introductory paragraph that says (briefly!) what the subject is and why it's [[:WP:NOTABILITY|notable]]. Include the reference you have, and if you can include the appropriate stub tag, so much the better. I hope that helps a bit -- if anything isn't clear, please feel free to ask. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 14:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)



==Navenby==

Just wanted to say thanks to you for tidying up the page I have started on the village of Navenby. You have done a brilliant job! Poor old Navenby has so much history - yet no-one had bothered telling Wiki until now. Once again, thanks!!

:You're welcome! I moved your comment down to the bottom, as that's the traditional place for new comments. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 13:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Fury Trucks==
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==San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre Redirects==

I get the point. I just think that they were non-notable victims and were being udnone by anon IP's
with edit summaries like "Tracy Tap Dances" and "rv vandalisim" and "I love Kristy Licciardi durring a fire drill in art" and my favorite "LEESA BODDEN DID THIS TO MATAO HERRERA" why would someone
use the silly edit summaries. [[User:DaveRapp101|weqeqwe]] 20:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:Probably the same reason we see a lot of attack pages getting created about a half hour after the junior high schools let out for the day. :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 22:20, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:More thoughts on the vandalism. This looks like an isolated incident that was quickly reverted by one of the vandal watchers. If these pages were vandalized more frequently (looks like the last time was over a year ago), you might want to request [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|semi-protection]] for them. [[Wikipedia:Rough guide to semi-protection]] has some good guidelines on what pages are good candidates. Hope that helps!--[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 22:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== Justin Hancock ==

You've despeedied this saying there's an "assertion of notability" - where? The text of the article in full reads ''Born in 1990 to Janet and David Hancock, Justin Hancock was raised in [[Salt Lake City]], [[Utah]] until he was thirteen years of age. When he was thirteen he developed an interest in [[poetry]]. His tallent grew rapidly, and was soon close to an obsession, writing one to three structured and flowing poetic works each day.''<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — [[User:Iridescent|<font color="#E45E05">iride</font><font color="#C1118C">scent</font>]] [[User_talk:Iridescent|<small><font color="#5CA36A"><i>(talk to me!)</i></font></small>]]</font> 23:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:I was going off the statement "He was soon known as an established poet", which I took to be a (weak) assertion of notabilty. I'm currently doing a gsearch to see if he meets [[WP:BIO]] (probably won't), and if he doesn't, I'll prod him. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 00:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

==speedy criteria==
You are quite right in what you said above. But your comment with respect to [[Hiroshi Ikeda]] wasn't consistent with that. As I understand it, you should have said just the same as above, and declined the speedy. (while of course giving advice on making the article stronger--and the advice you gave about that seems fine. ) '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 23:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

:I had intended to remove the speedy tag after giving my advice, but got interrupted. When I got back to my computer a couple of minutes later, I had no clue what I had intended to do. Thanks for removing the speedy for me! :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 23:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

== PMBus (Power Management Bus) ==

Hi, you've marked [[:PMBus]] as needing additional reliable sources. I can't quite make sense of that request. This article is (now) a straightforward summary of the (peer-reviewed) specifications (i.e. verifiable against those primary sources), and in terms of basic scholarship you can't really be more reliable than that. As a technology still being bootstrapped, it's not particularly realistic to expect tertiary sources; and secondary sources classically add no value. (Plus in this context they're almost exclusively "trade press", which is notoriously biased and inaccurate ... questionable sources, extremely ill suited for encyclopedias.) I was scanning [[Wikipedia:No original research]] and [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources]] and those policies seem ill-suited to technologies of this type: they'll never generate academic bibliographies since there is no rocket science, while the relevant product ecosystems have both long closed development cycles and "hidden" markets which would rarely generate much text. Sometimes even marketing collateral only goes to special customers, effectively under NDA. Many similar technical articles also stick to primary sources, and at least a few folk have commented that it seems clearly wrong to prefer secondary sources over primary ones. So, what's the motivation for needing "additional" sources? From what I see, they could only add errors... --[[User:69.226.208.120|69.226.208.120]] 04:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

:What secondary sources can do in this instance is show that [[:PMBus]] meets the requirements of [[:WP:NOTABILITY]]. I still think the <nowiki>{{primarysources}}</nowiki> tag is warranted.--[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 16:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

::If notability is the issue you're raising, the right tag is either <nowiki>{{Importance}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{notability}}</nowiki> then, yes? The info referenced by the "primarysources" tag doesn't bring out that issue. (In fact the referenced info seems more than a little bit confused...)

::I'm not sure what to do about notability at this stage. As noted in the pmbus.org website (linked from that page), it was only last month that the first multivendor product interop event was held. The fact that major silicon and systems vendors participate, and several have announced (or sampled) products, seems to establish notability in the relevant contexts. Even in the current shortage of secondary sources. It's referenced in the new Rev 03 I²C spec, but that's essentially a (minor) primary source. It would be rare in this industry to see many secondary sources at this stage of technology development. And in specialized cases like this, as I noted, even at later stages they may not be common.

::And I notice you haven't disagreed with the point that secondary sources, ''essentially by definition'', can '''never''' address technical accuracy. The "primarysources" template text appears to be incorrect on its own merits! Secondary sources can only be accurate about the narratives constructed around facts. In today's media, such narratives all too often have an adversarial relationship to facts; that's not an encyclopaedic goal, which explains the large amount of discussion on those topics. --[[User:69.226.208.120|69.226.208.120]] 22:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I didn't address the issue of primary vs. secondary sources because I really don't want to get into a debate about the merits. Primary sources are by definition closer to the "source". They are also more prone to bias. Secondary sources have their issues, as well. But it doesn't matter what I think about the issue, because the guideline for notability is "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." (from [[WP:NOTABILITY]]). One of the guidelines for the '''existence''' of an article is "If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." ([[Wikipedia:Verifiability]]).

:::Many creators of articles get a bit possessive about their subject and get peeved if they see a <nowiki>{{notability}}</nowiki> template on their article, so if secondary sources are missing I'll tag it with <nowiki>{{primarysources}}</nowiki>, which will accomplish the same thing: secondary sources will show that the article meets [[WP:NOTABILITY]]. And [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] says that reliable third-party sources are needed to justify the existence of the article, so the <nowiki>{{primarysources}}</nowiki> tag is still justified under that policy.

:::If you dislike the wording of the <nowiki>{{primarysources}}</nowiki> template, the place to bring up your concerns is not my talk page but at [[:Template_talk:Primarysources]]. If you think that [[WP:NOTABILITY]] is too restrictive towards new technologies, the place to bring that up is [[:Wikipedia_talk:Notability]]. Similarly, [[Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability]] is the place to bring up issues with that policy. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 22:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

==Guan Shengdi==
I got a few hits under that, but none that specifically reference the topic in the article. The user who started [[Guan Shengdi]] also started "[[The Feast of Immortal Peaches]]" and another article which seem bogus. I suspect it's either a fringe theory or vandal-nonsense. Maybe it is better left to AFD though. [[User:Perspicacite|Perspicacite]] 22:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:If you do suspect a hoax, speedy definitely won't work. Feel free to AfD it / them if appropriate. :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 23:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

==[[Mugen Puchipuchi]]==
You were right about the nonsense tag. Don't know what I was thinking. As a penance for wrongly tagging it I have expanded the article and now know more about bubble wrap toys than I would have thought possible.

I also removed the maintenance tags, as it appears suitably wikified and copyedited, at least for a minor toy stub. Let me know if I missed anything here. [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] 03:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Awesome job on the penance! :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 13:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== "Joseph mccann" ==

How does that "article" not meet the criteria for patent nonsense? It's completely idiotic. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] 15:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, being completely idiotic doesn't meet the difinition given in [[:WP:SPEEDY]], which is "Patent nonsense and gibberish, an unsalvageably incoherent page with no meaningful content. This does not include: poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, fictional material, material not in English, badly translated material, implausible theories, or hoaxes of any sort; some of these, however, may be deleted as vandalism in blatant cases."

:Yes, this is very counter-intuitive, and I'd love to see the words "patent nonsense" changed (but at this point they may be too entrenched). The best way to deal with this type of article is to prod it. (which I was in the process of doing when another admin, incorrectly in my opinion, deleted the article.) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 16:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==BoSox all-timers edits==
*Thanks for be alert. [[User:MusiCitizen|MusiCitizen]] 19:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:De nada! Thanks for all your disambig work on the rosters. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 19:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== help with new posting ==

Fabrictramp,
I hope this reaches you.
I am new to wiki and recently posted about a person, Grace Fernald. You tagged it as a dead-end page without internal links.
I have cleaned that up and would like the tag removed.
How can I make that happen?
Also, I would like to add categories at the bottom of the page. She is an educational researcher, teacher, psychologist, etc.
Any information about how to add such categories would be greatly appreciated.
Enjoy the MLB playoffs (even without the Cubs)
Thanks, Klumperz <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Klumperz|Klumperz]] ([[User talk:Klumperz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Klumperz|contribs]]) 18:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Glad to try and help!

:Since you've added internal links to the article, you can simply remove the deadend tag yourself. When you are in the article editing screen, simply delete the line that says <nowiki>{{deadend|date=October 2007}}</nowiki>, and the whole deadend box will go away.

:To add categories, I find the Category Browser is the easiest way to find the correct categories. Go to [[:Special:Allpages]]. In the box marked "Display pages starting at:" start typing the first part of a word you think might start the category (try psychologist, for example). Make sure the box marked "Namespace:" is set to category, and press the "go" button. A number of categories come up -- I'd try the second one, Psychologists. When you click on that link, you'll be taken to the category, which will tell you a little about that category, and list a number of subcategories. If you like that category, and none of the subcategories are appropriate, add the category to the article. You can do that by adding <nowiki>[[Category:Psychologists]]</nowiki> to the article right below <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Fernald, Grace}}</nowiki>. Be sure to always use the most specific category that is appropriate. For example, the subcategory <nowiki>[[Category:Educational psychologists]]</nowiki> looks like it might be appropriate, so you would use it ''instead'' of <nowiki>[[Category:Psychologists]]</nowiki>. Once you get a category or two in the article, you can remove the <nowiki>[[Category:Uncategorised people]]</nowiki> that is currently in the article.

:You can find a lot more about categories at [[:Wikipedia:Categorization]] and at [[:Wikipedia:Categorization and subcategories]]. I hope that helps a bit, and thanks for being bold and taking the plunge to improve an article! Feel free to ask if you have more questions. --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 19:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bearian's RfA ==

Hi, thanks for supporting [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bearian|my RfA]], which passed 63 to 1. I really appreciate that you wrote nice things about me. Yes, I lost a battle on the City of Dublin Male Voice Chorus. I hope that I am doing a good job so far. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] 20:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:Keep up the good work! It will be nice to have an admin around who isn't completely delete-happy. :) --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 21:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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== Hi ==

Do something about [[Karla Poewe]] page please...it's messed up : [[User:Jon Ascton|Jon Ascton]] <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 23:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm not sure exactly what you'd like me to do. Was there something specific you'd like help on how to do with the page? --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 23:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==re [[Simon cringle]]==
I'm fairly sure this article could fall under <nowiki>{{db-bio}} or {{db-band}}</nowiki>, since the "[weak] assertion of notability" is definately a hoax, as shown by a google search. However, you're the admin, so PROD it is. Thanks.--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] 19:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, hoaxes aren't eligible for speedy deletion. (See [[WP:SPEEDY#Non-criteria]].) That's why prod is more appropriate. I have to confess I've wished at times that hoaxes could be speedied, but every time I do I run across an article that seems like a hoax but turns out to be real. ([[See-through frog]] is a good example.) Hope that helps! --[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] 20:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, fair enough. Seems like a strange policy, though, as it would be perfectly ok for me/you/someone/anyone to remove the unref'd POV "Highly acclaimed DJ worldwide", which straight away leaves you with a simple <nowiki>{{db-bio}}</nowiki>. Oh well--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] 23:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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