Talk:Veer

The Veer is not primarily a high school offense as we are seeing alot of NCAA D-1 Schools using it out of the Shot gun most notablt West Virginia, Clemson and this years (2006) Nation Champ Florida.

I take a certain amount of exception to the baseless statement that professional teams are too talented to run the option against. The reality is that no NFL team is going to concentrate on a run-first system when passing (and losing) puts backsides in the seats. Secondarily, there's the lack of knowledge about option systems-- most NFL coaches think the option quarterback is in MORE danger than the drop back passer (which is wrong. The Atlanta Falcons compared "danger" stats for the 2006 season and discovered that when allowed to run or when he scrambled, Michael Vick was actually in LESS danger.) ~(Coach Wade)

Disagree on calling wishbone the veer

They both are variations of option football, but I disagree calling the wishbone the veer.

Wishbone uses the fullback in a power role much more, especially to attack inside. The veer can be inside veer or outside veer but seems to rely on faster, halfback type attack.

When you look at the great running teams of the 60's, 70's and 80's, seldom would the wishbone offense of Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, etc. be refered to as the veer. It was the wishbone.

Nebraska used I formation. Houston ran the veer.

"All variants of the triple option have now made the jump to the shotgun formation." - Is incorrect, as Navy has been running a Flexbone Triple option offense for years and and in recent years has been bowl bound. Also the flexbone is used in I-AA by some schools.