Talk:Chernobyl exclusion zone

The Zone is inappropriate alternative name because zona in colloquial Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian means "jail". Also, we need redirects here from "the forth - Fourth Zone" and the "Chernobyl zone". I have honestly tried to work with redirect templates today, but they're above my knowledge so far:).

Would some movie-concerned Wikifellow link this page to the films portraying exactly the Forth Zone (unlike Stalker). Take a look at [1] - if you read Russian (and have a cheap cable connection : )

Now, the only obstacle to remove stub template is I think the lack of maps. Experts? Michael, Steshcke?AlexPU

The guy was right: redirects are needed indeed. I found out that Chernobyl accident has neither links here nor mentions of (!?). Chornobyl zone is also OK. Ukrained 19:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Shame on us, AlexPU :). I followed your typo like a fool and created erroneous redirect! Ukrained 19:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

And let's capitalize some redirect names. Ukrained 19:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

"A motorcycle trip inside the zone (later confirmed as a hoax)"

Okay why is this even an external link if it's being called a hoax? Talk about being hypocritical, we're giving free advertising to someone who rigged the whole thing apparently just to get some attention. If it is to stay then it has to be discussed because it actually managed to get peoples attention back onto what happened.

Either it should be discussed or deleted, not just left as a festering link to a hoax. 83.100.152.98 00:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

• It was me who marked the report as a hoax. I admit, it was a bit harsh: Helena (or whatever her real name is) did go to the Zone. However, not on a bike (she only took her gear and helmet), and certainly not by herself but with other people who also paid for the organized tour (seriously, do you really expect people who back in the Soviet times were feared by NATO generals to simply let a "pretty girl on a bike" ride in? Come on) --Bicycle repairman 03:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

RPG's?

From the 'Status' section: Numerous short-term tours and research expeditions into the zone are organized for Ukrainian and foreign citizens (mostly scientists, politicians, and the occasional computer game development team for RPG development). That last one sounds dubious. Pendragon39 16:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

It sounds like a bit of a joke. Maybe it happened once and one of the people in question added it here. Personally I don't think there's any point in saying "Ukrainian and foreign citizens" either (there aren't many places closed specifically to foreigners in Ukraine any more) and there's not a heck of a lot of point in listing the other professions either. I don't even think it's true to say "mostly..."; anyone (e.g. tourists) can, I'm told, book a tour from Kiev for between $100 and $200, and if you just drive to the zone, as I have, it's possible to avoid the checkpoints on the main roads by "getting lost" on tracks in the forest. – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 16:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, you've been there - please modify the sentence to make it more accurate :) Pendragon39 17:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah! I was just being chicken and hiding out on the talk page because for some odd reason these Chernobyl-related articles seem to get ever-so controversial! But you're right, I should make a change, hang on... ;) – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good :) Pendragon39 00:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Mixing Game/reality?

"There is also a complex social system of STALKERS that salvage artifacts from the radioactive anomalies that the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant has caused."

I cannot believe that this would be true, but it more sounds like straightly taken from the game "STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl". Guess someonehas mixed up reality and game. Can someone confirm and change this? (i would have changed the page if i was 100% certain). Of course, i'm certain there are no anomalies like those in that game, but since i'm not very into radioactivity, i'm not sure if there are things at all called anomalies when it comes to radition. (As in maybe a local higher level of radiation?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.67.3.200 (talk) 18:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

This is stated in the first section of the "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl" page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl

"Some terminology of the game ("The Zone", "Stalker") as well as the background idea is borrowed from the popular science fiction book Roadside Picnic by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, as well as the 1979 film Stalker, which was adapted from the book."

As far as I can find, STALKERS are not a real thing. There are people who loot the site, as mentioned in some of the Chernobyl articles, but they are not called STALKERS, nor do they have a complex social system. 205.211.50.10 02:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Quite clearly a pisstake. Some of the research scientists who work near the Zone call themselves Stalkers because of the culture surrounding the Zone, but the guys who grab bits and pieces of metal in Chernobyl and fence it in Kiev or online arn't stalkers.--70.178.224.225 04:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there are people taking stuff from the area and selling it. But stalker isn't the (correct) term for them. They're more-or-less scrap hunters. Even I thought about going there and selling what I can find, you can make a hefty fortune off of all that stuff left over from the evacuations. Royaljared (talk) 01:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Relevance of Stalker film to Chernobyl incident?

"Stalker is a 1979 film directed by Andrei Tarkovsky, based on a 1972 novel by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky entitled Roadside Picnic. Both describe a mysterious and forbidden "zone", depopulated of human life by an unexplained disaster, and Tarkovsky's film in particular has come to symbolize the exclusion zone in the minds of many commentators."

The film Stalker, as well as the novel, are more based off of the Mayak incident, and the film was actually made seven years before the Chernobyl incident.--127.0.0.1 01:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The bunker

I heared that there is a large radiation-protected facility under the radar building still functioning. It includes food, clean air and energy reserves. It it true?--212.1.251.138 22:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

History

The history section is too sentimental for Wikipedia. Can someone change? (SirGrotius 19:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC))