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<big><big>I think it's a privilege to call yourself a Scientologist, and it's something that you have to earn.</big></big><br>
#REDIRECT [[User:Justanother]]
''[[Tom Cruise]]''

{{Personalissuesunspecified}}

== Announcement ==

I have decided that this is as good a time as any for me to put down my keyboard here. This has nothing to do with the recent protest brouhaha but with my personal ability to contribute here in a manner deserving of the effort. Some months ago I reached that conclusion also and, for all intents, retired the Justanother account. Since then and until fairly recently, I did only the slightest bit of editing under JustaHulk. Most recently, I found myself objecting strongly to a prolific propagandist successfully embedding him/herself in this project and at WikiNews where s/he found some willing cohorts and little moderating influence. Well, I think that I have done my share of "objecting strongly". While I have been perhaps a somewhat successful foil, that is not a pleasant task nor one that I desire to continue as my exclusive "contribution" here. Ideally, I would have the time to do what I would really like to do, rewrite the Scientology articles to remove any POV "taint" and to add the missing perspective of the Scientologist's viewpoint on the meaning and value of Hubbard's work. But I don't. And there is little if any effort to move in that direction by others. There were a couple of decent articles in that vein but they were AfD'd while I was semi-dormant. If I do anything here at all the near future, I want to make the needed additions to those and repost them. They are in my user space now but I will be taking them off-line and deleting the online versions. So while this announcement may give some few editors satisfaction (perhaps even glee), they are not the reason I am doing this and their satisfaction will not dissuade me. However, I have many friends here and even more that have supported and protected me. To them I say Thank You. Your support and tolerance is noticed, acknowledged, and appreciated. Again, if my personal circumstances permitted me, I would love to stay. But they do not and I do not want to find myself being nothing more here than a troll or the "pet Scientologist", which is what happens when I maintain an interest here without the wherewithal to be a productive editor. So in closing:
{{cquote|I'm not even angry.<br>I'm being so sincere right now.<br>Even though you broke my heart . . .}}
And for the wags that want to add that "the (Scientology) cake is a lie", well consider that done so you can go back to bothering someone else ;) And don't worry anyone, my heart is not really broken. I'm still alive. Still alive. --[[User:JustaHulk|JustaHulk]] ([[User talk:JustaHulk|talk]]) 15:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Justanother&oldid=135815409 Here] is the old, and quite long-winded, version of my page

<big><big>Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy.</big></big><br>
''-Book of [[Bokonon]] 1:5''


<big><big>''Somewhat'' helpful.</big></big><br>
''- Recent revision by critics to the ''Scientology'' entry in [[The Guide (character)|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]] (it had previously simply said "Helpful." but that was attacked as POV in a dispute among editors that lasted over 30 years before reaching this compromise.)''


<big><big>The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao; the name that can be named is not the eternal name.</big></big><br>
''-[[Tao Te Ching]]''


<big><big>What is man, that he could be pure, or one born of woman, that he could be righteous?</big></big><br> ''- [[Book of Job]] 15:14''


<big><big>I'm in the business of effing the ineffable.</big></big><br>
''-[[Alan Watts]]''


<big><big>When those that have the Clues don't share the Clues, then the Clueless remain clueless.</big></big><br>
''- [[User:Justanother|Justanother]]''


<big><big>And a bit of Scientology:</big><br><br>
The common denominator of a group is the reactive bank. Thetans without banks have different responses. They only have their banks in common. They agree then only on bank principles. Person to person the bank is identical. So constructive ideas are individual and seldom get broad agreement in a human group. An individual must rise above an avid craving for agreement from a humanoid group to get anything decent done. The bank-agreement has been what has made Earth a Hell -- and if you were looking for Hell and found Earth, it would certainly serve.</big><br>
''- [[L. Ron Hubbard]]''
<hr>

<table width="450" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="tblBorderAll">
<tr><td>You scored as <b>Cultural Creative</b><p>[[Cultural Creative]]s are probably the newest group to enter this realm. You are a modern thinker who tends to shy away from organized religion but still feels as if there is something greater than ourselves. You are very spiritual, even if you are not religious. Life has a meaning outside of the rational.<br><br></p>
<table><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Cultural Creative</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>100%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Postmodernist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='75' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>75%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Existentialist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='50' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>50%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Fundamentalist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='38' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>38%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Idealist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='38' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>38%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Romanticist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='25' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>25%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Modernist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='25' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>25%</font></td></tr><tr><td><p><font face='Arial' size='1'>Materialist</font></p></td><td>
<table border='1' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='0' bgcolor='#dddddd'><tr><td></td></tr></table></td><td><font face='Arial' size='1'>0%</font></td></tr></table>
</td></tr>
<tr><td>
From [http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=3305N Quizfarm; What is Your World View?]. Thanks to [[User:ScienceApologist]] for the idea.
</td></tr>
</table>

<hr>
<big>Right now, the [[beingness]] I most value:</big><br>
{{User Father}}<small>What a crappy color scheme!</small>
{{sa-yeoman-ubx}}

[[Category:Scientologist Wikipedians|{{PAGENAME}}]]

Revision as of 15:37, 12 February 2008

I think it's a privilege to call yourself a Scientologist, and it's something that you have to earn.
Tom Cruise

Template:Personalissuesunspecified

Announcement

I have decided that this is as good a time as any for me to put down my keyboard here. This has nothing to do with the recent protest brouhaha but with my personal ability to contribute here in a manner deserving of the effort. Some months ago I reached that conclusion also and, for all intents, retired the Justanother account. Since then and until fairly recently, I did only the slightest bit of editing under JustaHulk. Most recently, I found myself objecting strongly to a prolific propagandist successfully embedding him/herself in this project and at WikiNews where s/he found some willing cohorts and little moderating influence. Well, I think that I have done my share of "objecting strongly". While I have been perhaps a somewhat successful foil, that is not a pleasant task nor one that I desire to continue as my exclusive "contribution" here. Ideally, I would have the time to do what I would really like to do, rewrite the Scientology articles to remove any POV "taint" and to add the missing perspective of the Scientologist's viewpoint on the meaning and value of Hubbard's work. But I don't. And there is little if any effort to move in that direction by others. There were a couple of decent articles in that vein but they were AfD'd while I was semi-dormant. If I do anything here at all the near future, I want to make the needed additions to those and repost them. They are in my user space now but I will be taking them off-line and deleting the online versions. So while this announcement may give some few editors satisfaction (perhaps even glee), they are not the reason I am doing this and their satisfaction will not dissuade me. However, I have many friends here and even more that have supported and protected me. To them I say Thank You. Your support and tolerance is noticed, acknowledged, and appreciated. Again, if my personal circumstances permitted me, I would love to stay. But they do not and I do not want to find myself being nothing more here than a troll or the "pet Scientologist", which is what happens when I maintain an interest here without the wherewithal to be a productive editor. So in closing:

And for the wags that want to add that "the (Scientology) cake is a lie", well consider that done so you can go back to bothering someone else ;) And don't worry anyone, my heart is not really broken. I'm still alive. Still alive. --JustaHulk (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Here is the old, and quite long-winded, version of my page

Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy.
-Book of Bokonon 1:5


Somewhat helpful.
- Recent revision by critics to the Scientology entry in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (it had previously simply said "Helpful." but that was attacked as POV in a dispute among editors that lasted over 30 years before reaching this compromise.)


The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao; the name that can be named is not the eternal name.
-Tao Te Ching


What is man, that he could be pure, or one born of woman, that he could be righteous?
- Book of Job 15:14


I'm in the business of effing the ineffable.
-Alan Watts


When those that have the Clues don't share the Clues, then the Clueless remain clueless.
- Justanother


And a bit of Scientology:

The common denominator of a group is the reactive bank. Thetans without banks have different responses. They only have their banks in common. They agree then only on bank principles. Person to person the bank is identical. So constructive ideas are individual and seldom get broad agreement in a human group. An individual must rise above an avid craving for agreement from a humanoid group to get anything decent done. The bank-agreement has been what has made Earth a Hell -- and if you were looking for Hell and found Earth, it would certainly serve.

- L. Ron Hubbard


You scored as Cultural Creative

Cultural Creatives are probably the newest group to enter this realm. You are a modern thinker who tends to shy away from organized religion but still feels as if there is something greater than ourselves. You are very spiritual, even if you are not religious. Life has a meaning outside of the rational.

Cultural Creative

100%

Postmodernist

75%

Existentialist

50%

Fundamentalist

38%

Idealist

38%

Romanticist

25%

Modernist

25%

Materialist

0%

From Quizfarm; What is Your World View?. Thanks to User:ScienceApologist for the idea.


Right now, the beingness I most value:

DadThis user is a father and proud of it!

What a crappy color scheme!

This editor is a Yeoman Editor and is entitled to display this Service Badge.