Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 February 16

16 February 2008

Nial Djuliarso

Nial Djuliarso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)

The article Nial Djuliarso has been deleted again for the second time. I am tired of having to explain that Nial Djuliarso is a prominent musician in Indonesia. I created the page of Nial Djuliarso. Although he is not notable in the US, he is a notable jazz musician in Indonesia, because he's a child prodigy of jazz and has created a number of recordings which won awards in Indonesia. Deletion of his article is regretted. Again, I am really sad that Wikipedia uses American standard for notability, while ignoring people from developing countries. We can see categories such as Indonesian Journalist, Indonesian Musician, and Nial Djuliarso is one of them. (Sorry for the late comment regarding this matter because I was away to give birth of my son). The AFD has been discussed many times, it has been contested and approved to be reinstated. Please explain why Nial Djuliarso is deleted again on January 23. Chaerani (talk) 14:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Caitriona Reed

Caitriona Reed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)

Was listed as speedy delete, but fails speedy delete criteria. I placed a hangon message, and within a minute the page was deleted. I was just about to add more information and link The Advocate reference at the time of deletion. See [1], also found on their site here [2]. I was also going to seek more sources here: [3], atop the book references that were already in the article. Administrator did not use proper precaution in this instance. See these following sources as well: [4] and [5]. Additionally, she wrote 16 pages in the book What makes a man : 22 writers imagine the future edited by Rebecca Walker. Mind meal (talk) 08:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

It contains no assertion (or hint) of notability. I'll restore this to your user pages if you want to fix this or work the article up before reposting it. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 08:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Notability does not mean famous, gorgeous, special, whatever. Notability is something we establish, by providing sources. Those who have covered her seem fine with the fact that she's "Just a Zen teacher", which is your assertion, basically. She is authorized to teach by Thich Nhat Hanh and, if the article would have lasted another second, that would have been clear. No need to restore it to my user page. We'll just let this process follow course. (Mind meal (talk) 08:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC))

• Withdraw It seems all has worked out. I'd like to withdraw this review. (Mind meal (talk) 10:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC))

• See here for discussion if interested. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)