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Would such a page comply with [[WP:N]] or [[WP:FICT]]? No, doesn't look like it. So he shouldn't get a page. Google reveals lots of fan blogs and and forums talking about him, not much else. The basic problem is that fanboys come in and start a biography of everything the character does, when they should really be posting to one of the fan wikis. It's easy to condense it down to a paragraph or so without losing much, and it still fits nicely in the list format. I've done so, and I don't think I lost anything that's not already covered in the episode recaps. If Derek establishes some notability in his own right (if the show is renewed) and continues to be a big part of the show, then he should probably get a page, but not yet. [[User:Fritter|Fritter]] ([[User talk:Fritter|talk]]) 00:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Would such a page comply with [[WP:N]] or [[WP:FICT]]? No, doesn't look like it. So he shouldn't get a page. Google reveals lots of fan blogs and and forums talking about him, not much else. The basic problem is that fanboys come in and start a biography of everything the character does, when they should really be posting to one of the fan wikis. It's easy to condense it down to a paragraph or so without losing much, and it still fits nicely in the list format. I've done so, and I don't think I lost anything that's not already covered in the episode recaps. If Derek establishes some notability in his own right (if the show is renewed) and continues to be a big part of the show, then he should probably get a page, but not yet. [[User:Fritter|Fritter]] ([[User talk:Fritter|talk]]) 00:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::In reference to the "main characters", only John Connor and Sarah Connor actually have such a reason to exist. Cromartie definitely does not, and neither does Cameron, or James Ellison. Derek Reese is a significant part of the storyline, in the episodes shown, more so than Cromartie or Ellison. So, either this list should be renamed to "list of characters" and Ellison and Cromartie are merged here, or Derek Reese should be split off and given his own page, since he's a larger character than either Cromartie or Ellison, both of whom are less significant to the mythology of Terminator. [[Special:Contributions/70.55.84.253|70.55.84.253]] ([[User talk:70.55.84.253|talk]]) 07:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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Derek Reese

Derek is a major character. Should be split, or this list should be converted to a list of characters, with summaries for all characters, not just minor ones. 70.55.84.253 (talk) 05:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was just going to say the same...Brian A. Green may be listed as a guest star, but Derek Reese is definitely not a minor character. I don't know how you can introduce another Reese into the Terminator universe and consider it minor. Taroaldo (talk) 05:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The fact of the matter is we do not know how long Derek will survive. He could be killed in the first episode of the next season. I'd give him three more episodes, then give him his own article no matter what. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.152.168.130 (talkcontribs) 20:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with that plan is this: we are out of episodes. Waiting for three more episodes could mean waiting another year, and I don't think that people are going to want to wait another 12 months to close out this discussion. The fact is, he was at the SCC panel at Wondercon. The only other actors on the panel were Thomas Dekker and Summer Glau. I think that makes him important enough for his own article. Just look at the length of his section. 146.201.25.94 (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree he deserves his own page. Jonesy702 (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would such a page comply with WP:N or WP:FICT? No, doesn't look like it. So he shouldn't get a page. Google reveals lots of fan blogs and and forums talking about him, not much else. The basic problem is that fanboys come in and start a biography of everything the character does, when they should really be posting to one of the fan wikis. It's easy to condense it down to a paragraph or so without losing much, and it still fits nicely in the list format. I've done so, and I don't think I lost anything that's not already covered in the episode recaps. If Derek establishes some notability in his own right (if the show is renewed) and continues to be a big part of the show, then he should probably get a page, but not yet. Fritter (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In reference to the "main characters", only John Connor and Sarah Connor actually have such a reason to exist. Cromartie definitely does not, and neither does Cameron, or James Ellison. Derek Reese is a significant part of the storyline, in the episodes shown, more so than Cromartie or Ellison. So, either this list should be renamed to "list of characters" and Ellison and Cromartie are merged here, or Derek Reese should be split off and given his own page, since he's a larger character than either Cromartie or Ellison, both of whom are less significant to the mythology of Terminator. 70.55.84.253 (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]