Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loughborough Students' Union (2nd nomination)

Loughborough Students' Union

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For a simple reason, this article serves a purpose to promote the student union and nothing else. Also, god knows if individual student unions are notable in its own right, hence not notable at all, therefore fails WP:N, this is why this is nominated. I wish people don't come here and write as if they are writing a holiday brochure. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Merge Student unions are common, and this one is not notable. Paddy Simcox (talk) 23:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete SUs are not inheritantly notable, and this article fails to assert notability. _TalkIslander 00:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Have a look at Category:English students' unions, these unions are notable in British Universities. And to blatantly copy Spanmandoo's rationale from the prior AfD, this particular Union is notable because:
  • It is the only students union to represent three organisations, the university, local colledge, and Royal National Institute for the Blind.
  • it has the largest charitable fundraising total of any union in the country.
  • its radio station is responsible for helping launch and entire genre of music back in the 80's.
  • They have won the british university sporting association cup for 29 years running,leaving all other unions in thier wake.
  • They are the most ethical and environmentally freindly organisation of its type, having won many national awards in this feild. including the green gown award , the best bar none award and the sound impact award.
  • They Have achieved the higest score in student satisfaction in the national student survey last year proving the outstanding level of support for its community.
  • having the oldest student cinema in the country with several hundred capacity (an acheivemnt in the UK).
  • being one of the biggest performance venues in leicstershire.
  • It is also the only^{[citation needed]} student union in the UK that owns it's own student union building rather than leasing space from the university. --Stephen 00:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
    • None of those sources appear on the page. The radio station has its own article. I don't know about intramural sports, and the rest could be merged back to the University article. Paddy Simcox (talk) 01:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment "Have a look at , these unions are notable in British Universities" - highly debatable. In my opinion, they certainly aren't notable, with some exceptions. Each union must stand on it's own, and must be able to prove notability. _TalkIslander 01:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep major functional division of universities.DGG (talk) 03:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - Long established Union, perhaps notable for being the only tertiary Union in UK. Plus its Athletic Union are first rate. BpEps - t@lk 03:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• LuffDucKeep. I usually vote to delete SOCs, but at a major university the union itself is always notable enough for inclusion. AndyJones (talk) 08:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • PS I'd also support a merge to the University article. There's an awful lot of unsourced guff in this one. AndyJones (talk) 08:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I belive it was split off form the main article as it was too large, but we live in a cyclical world --Stephen 08:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Yes, I see. Although I've gotta say, if you merged the adequately sourced content you'd just have to find room for one short sentence: "Six others were also injured during what was described as a scuffle that broke out after CS gas was sprayed following the event.[2]" This AfD is better-sourced! AndyJones (talk)
• Keep per DGG. GreenJoe 14:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge any relevant content to the university's page, student unions are not inherently notable and while this one appears to have some hint of notability, it's still not independent. See also WP:CORP's Organizations whose activities are local in scope are usually not notable unless verifiable information from reliable independent sources can be found. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 18:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment to keep noms, every universities have a SU, therefore I can't see why this article is really notable. Plus this appalling quality of this article is simply calling for a deletion. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 01:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Bad Prose is not a reason for deletion WP:ATD and I find phrases like "...appalling quality of this article is simply calling for a deletion." to be objectionable and completely against Wikipedia policy. If you are trying to inflame other editors that is a great way of going about it. -- BpEps - t@lk 06:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - I would tend to think any SU that was able to book the Rolling Stones puts it into a Unique group, and thus notable. The argument that a University serves a purly local group is false and compleatly ignores the notable topic of Student exchange programs in most (if not all) Universities. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 10:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• commentThat comment only applies to universities, not SU which is what this nomination is about. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 15:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete per Knock off, signing Rolling Stone when they were just a new band, is that a massive achievment, this is like saying I signed Arctic Monkeys to perform at my uni in 2006 and this is this biggest achievment the SU could do, why would signing a band when they new a big deal, I'm sure every new bands will all want to perform for food, why, because I used to be in one myself —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay Pegg (talk • contribs) 15:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• comment, I personally agree, something trivial dressed up as serious notability because of how famous they are now, plus people are paying their weekly salaries to go and see them. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 15:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)