Talk:Water Resistant mark

Description of depths is off by one?

The section that describes what is permissible at each depth does not match up with the reference it cites (footnote [1]). The cited chart says that "water resistant" (usually means 30m) is for splashes only, 50m is OK for swimming, and 100m is OK for swimming, snorkeling, or water sports.

Here is a slightly more readable version of the same chart (1 bar == 10 meter of depth): Seiko Water Resistance FAQ

incandenza 06:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

ISO standards

Does anyone know where iso standards can be looked up for free?

Itn't it a bit ironic that you need a watch that says it can resist water 100 meters deep before you can swim in a 3 meter deep pool with it?

ISO 6425 and Breitling

Regards this statement: "Watches conforming to ISO 6425 are marked with the word 'Divers'." Looking at my two Breitlings right now, I don't see the word "Divers" anywhere on either one of them. They're both diving watches, rated to 500 and 1,500 meters. Assuming Breitling conforms to ISO 6425, the statement above should read "Watches conforming to ISO 6425 are allowed to be marked with the word 'Divers.'" --ExarPalantas (talk) 07:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

What about operating?

Can you operate a watch marked Water Resistant X M under water? Can buttons be pushed? Is that part of the spec or is it arbitrary? --Olethros 13:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The definition is wrong?

I don't understand, if this mark means, that watches able to resist some water pressure, why they are unable to resist it actually while scuba diving? If they unable, hence either this mark means something else, or the pressure while scuba diving is higher than while testing. But second is may be truth only on Jupiter :), so probably the first is right. So, the definition of term is wrong, it seems to me! Excuse my English. Dims 08:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, it would be nice to see an explanation of why, for example, a 30M rating doesn't correspond to a depth of 30 metres underwater, and where the rating actually comes from. That's what I came here to find out. Funkdafied 07:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• If you read the article carefully, it says that 30M rating for example referrs to static pressure. That means that if you for example teleport the watch to 30M depth, it will widthstand the pressure. However, if you just swim with the watch, when you do a stroke it will be faced with much higer pressure, possibly equivalent to 50M+. Just think, as you swim, don't you feel the pressure of the water when you move your arms? That is the pressure the watch will experience, and it won't be equivalent to just 1M of static water pressure. I cannot give you a formula (it depends on the shape of the watch), but a watch in 1m depth moving at 10km/h, will probably face more pressure than if it was static in 50m depth. But anyway, the equivalence to depth is comfusing, I guess it all started for show and for giving something closer to common understanding than bar measurements. Dkechag 17:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you. I don't think that explanation was there when I first posted the comment, but its good to see that it's there now. Funkdafied 02:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me, that dynamics does not explain situation. It seems, that it can't be true, that some human moving can change pressure, equivalent to several times static pressure. The pressure at the h meters depth approximately is h/10 atmospheres. So, it is one atmosphere at 10 m. So, if you say, that moving hand equivalent to arising pressure to 50 m, it means, that moving hand making pressure of 4 atmospheres! It looks unreal! Dims 21:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Why is it so hard to believe? 4 atm is about 60PSI - that means a pressure of 60 pounds (assuming the seal of the watch is 1 square inch). That's no problem for a human. And in fact the seals of a watch are much smaller then 1 square inch, they might be a tenth of that, so it's very easy to apply that much pressure to them (6 punds). Ariel. 21:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Depth Chart

I think that the chart on this page is a little sparse compared to others I've seen, including the one in the instruction manual to my own diving watch. I'm working on a new one. Does anyone know what the reference is for "20 bar/200 meters/scuba diving to a depth of 30 m"? It's not in the FAQ pages at Seiko Watches website, which is the only reference on the site. --ExarPalantas (talk) 07:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC) ^