User talk:Thright

MOVE ALONG!

What every one needs to read, What happens when you challenge a page? You get called "you're acting in bad faith"

Taken from Friday's user page. Excellent advise that we all must follow; Ive been rather astonished lately to see so many people misinterpreting "assume good faith" as though it means "we must always agree with each other." Nothing could be further from the truth. There's plenty of room for good editors to disagree with each other, all in good faith. In other words, criticism is allowed. Because of Wikipedia's nature as a collaborative project, criticism is necessary. Criticism of articles helps us improve them, and criticism of editors helps us become better at what we do.

Too frequently, people cry "assume good faith" or "no personal attacks", without apparently comprehending what these words mean. Being civil is about keeping our discussion focused on useful things, rather than degenerating into schoolyard name-calling. We can disagree strongly, and even use strong words, while keeping the discussion on topic. When evaluating an admin candidate for example, if you feel they have poor judgement, it's OK to say so. It's not a personal attack. When a user is disruptive and a block is being discussed, it's not a personal attack to come right out and say they've been disruptive. You should have evidence, of course, but criticism is allowed.

Admins in particular will tend to attract more criticism, and should be extra gracious in receiving it. If someone has a disagreement with your actions as an editor or an admin, you should listen to them. You might not agree that their criticism is valid (this happens all the time, and this is allowed too) but you'll never know if you don't first take the time to actually listen to it.

Vandal

In response to your comment left on my talk page, the best way to handle someone who is vandalizing you is to ignore them. revert any inappropriate comments, and don't give them the satisfaction of answering them. I've only seen what's going on on your page in passing, but if you think he's harrassing you, you can take it to WP:ANI. Admins will look into the situation, and see what's going on. Good luck! Redrocket (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

thank you!

Wikipedia is a collaborative process, and there are times when editors clash over ideas. It's important for all parties involved to remain civil and work together towards consensus, especially on controversial issues. Redrocket (talk) 18:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Please stay

I noticed your comment on ANI and urge you to reconsider. Wikipedia could really use an editor like you. Not everyone on Wikipedia is confrontational. --clpo13_(talk) 19:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the comments and good luck on becoming an admin. I don;t know, I will take time and think it over. I like the idea of wiki, and I thought I could add valuable info, but I don't think that is possible. It seems like a boxing ring here, not a source of knowledge. Good luck with everything.Thright (talk) 19:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)