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PDTV has also been seen on semi-professional DVD releases found at fan conventions and on the internet. In this case, PDTV is not intended to stand for "Pure Digital Television", since the source material for these DVDs is almost always analog, such as VHS.

So what DOES it stand for in this case? Is it the name of a specific group of fans who produce these DVDs? --Msgohan 22:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article. Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin. She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin. In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material. PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain. I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn. I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article. Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin. She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin. In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material. PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain. I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn.

All you need to know is that Planet Dust produces PDTV titles and that they do not represent the kind of material you see on torrent sites with pdtv in the filename. Therefore the disambiguation is necessary... if not in the main article, at least as a separate disambiguation page or link that says "for the fan-made DVD releases, see PDTV". I don't think that's asking too much.

DSRip vs. PDTV

Both are the same right? Digital source, less than HD resolution?

No, a DSRip involves an analog conversion step, i.e. the S-video (or worse, composite/RCA) output of a satellite receiver connected to a PC capture card. PDTV and HDTV rips are fully digital, transcoding the MPEG-2 data sent by the satellite provider directly to the final format. --Msgohan 19:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well "Digital Satellite Rip" is misleading then, since it the analog step via S-VHS has much bigger impact on the video quality than the fact that the signal is coming from a digital receiver. Whether the it is from an analog or digital transponder is totally irrelevant.

Not really; I don't think you'd be saying that if you'd seen the old analog satellite wildfeed rips Scene groups used to do, heh... But at any rate, these are the terms in common use so there's no sense arguing about them. Digital->analog "DSRips" preceded the availability of DVB tuner cards, so when it did become possible to transcode the actual data stream, a new label had to be invented. --Msgohan 08:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm yeah, that makes sense of course. Thanks!

Transferred from article - better off in here me thinks:

Perhaps a disambiguation page (pdtv vs. PDTV) would be appropriate. It is believed that in the latter case, PDTV actually stands for "Planet Dust Television", since a company known to be associated with these releases is called Planet Dust.

"In the event that a PDTV release is made obsolete by an official DVD, that particular title is pulled by PDTV and no longer offered." -- makes no sense. PDTV is defined in the article as being an abbreviation. Can an abbreviation "pull" a "particular title"? Who is this PDTV that is pulling the title? A guy? A company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.169.112 (talk) 14:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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-I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article.  Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin.  She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin.  In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material.  PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain.  I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn.  I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article.  Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin.  She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin.  In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material.  PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain.  I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn.
+I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article.  Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin.  She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin.  In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material.  PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain.  I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn.  I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article.  Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin.  She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin.  In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material.  PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain.  I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn.
 All you need to know is that Planet Dust produces PDTV titles and that they do not represent the kind of material you see on torrent sites with pdtv in the filename.  Therefore the disambiguation is necessary... if not in the main article, at least as a separate disambiguation page or link that says "for the fan-made DVD releases, see PDTV".  I don't think that's asking too much.