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[[User:M.J.E.|M.J.E.]] 16:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
[[User:M.J.E.|M.J.E.]] 16:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

:I'm more experienced, but there are larger problems that require someone much more experience :)

:There are berths in airplanes, airships, submarines, too. Not to mention this article has in the intro three different meanings for "berth". While the sense of "mooring" seems to be related, the sports sense seems inappropriate, and needs another article (or at least to be deleted).

:The article uses "berth", "bed", and "bunk" interchangably. That doesn't seem precise.

:I've added a request for references, but what I also mean is that there's too much in the article that sounds like information drawn from personal experience.

:The writing makes unfounded statements which are subjective, and sound as though they might be open to question. E.g., the etymology of the phrase "pilot berth". Less of an issue is the wide use of superlatives "usually this", "typically", "surprisingly", "most of the time", "fairly tall". Some of these should be reworded to be more exact, or should be omitted.

:[[Special:Contributions/67.169.127.166|67.169.127.166]] ([[User talk:67.169.127.166|talk]]) 13:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


==Confirmation and description of images==
==Confirmation and description of images==

Revision as of 13:18, 30 April 2008

Trains also have berths.

This article could also mention trains too, because (at least in Australia, and I would think elsewhere too) beds in night trains are sometimes referred to as berths or sleeping berths. However, I am not expert enough to write a whole section covering this in a similar level of detail as the discussion about berths in (or for) ships, so I don't quite know how this brief mention could be incorporated sensibly into the article. Perhaps some more experienced Wikipedian who agrees with me could do this somehow.

M.J.E. 16:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more experienced, but there are larger problems that require someone much more experience :)
There are berths in airplanes, airships, submarines, too. Not to mention this article has in the intro three different meanings for "berth". While the sense of "mooring" seems to be related, the sports sense seems inappropriate, and needs another article (or at least to be deleted).
The article uses "berth", "bed", and "bunk" interchangably. That doesn't seem precise.
I've added a request for references, but what I also mean is that there's too much in the article that sounds like information drawn from personal experience.
The writing makes unfounded statements which are subjective, and sound as though they might be open to question. E.g., the etymology of the phrase "pilot berth". Less of an issue is the wide use of superlatives "usually this", "typically", "surprisingly", "most of the time", "fairly tall". Some of these should be reworded to be more exact, or should be omitted.
67.169.127.166 (talk) 13:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation and description of images

Hey, I've done *very* little boating in my life, and don't know port from starboard. The images I found seem to fit the description of berth as described in the article as I understand them, but could someone double check? And more importantly, could someone note in those captions which type of birth they each fall under (e.g. marina berth, settee birth)? Thanks in advance. --YbborTalk 21:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]