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The section on Tibet is clearly biased. Never has it been confirmed from a non-Chinese documented source that the majority of Tibetans were serfs. In fact, it makes claims that these serfs lived in harsh conditions without backing it up. The way I understand it, the majority of serfs were criminals or owed a debt. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever wrote this was a supporter of the PRC. |
The section on Tibet is clearly biased. Never has it been confirmed from a non-Chinese documented source that the majority of Tibetans were serfs. In fact, it makes claims that these serfs lived in harsh conditions without backing it up. The way I understand it, the majority of serfs were criminals or owed a debt. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever wrote this was a supporter of the PRC. |
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:In any case serfs and peasants are common in feudal societies - and may be indentured citizens of another country, so it would be unsurprising considering chinese dominence of that region in the medieval period that they inslaved tibetians. So that doesn't mean that all tibetians were serfs but that their social circumstances may have forced them into becoming so. Hard to find primary evidence on this, but until contrary evidence is provided the article should be left as is. |
:In any case serfs and peasants are common in feudal societies - and may be indentured citizens of another country, so it would be unsurprising considering chinese dominence of that region in the medieval period that they inslaved tibetians. So that doesn't mean that all tibetians were serfs but that their social circumstances may have forced them into becoming so. Hard to find primary evidence on this, but until contrary evidence is provided the article should be left as is. |
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== American South == |
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To quote the article [[Feudalism]]: "However, some have taken the feudalism analogy further, seeing it in places as diverse as Ancient Egypt, Parthian empire, India, to the American South of the nineteenth century." |
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I don't think this article really refers to Egypt of the American South, does anyone have information on that?--[[Special:Contributions/69.234.177.129|69.234.177.129]] ([[User talk:69.234.177.129|talk]]) 15:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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France in examples
Why isn't France in the examples of feudalism? France was one of the core areas where feudalism originated and developed. Strange, I think. cun 20:11, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- The article is not a country by country "list-of", Feudal arrangements existed in France (and many other places in Europe) -- the article is examples of how feudalism was practiced in certain places at certain times (11th c france was different from 13th c france). If you have information concerning France, at particular places and times, please do add for illustrative purposes. Stbalbach 00:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Tibet
The section on Tibet is clearly biased. Never has it been confirmed from a non-Chinese documented source that the majority of Tibetans were serfs. In fact, it makes claims that these serfs lived in harsh conditions without backing it up. The way I understand it, the majority of serfs were criminals or owed a debt. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever wrote this was a supporter of the PRC.
- In any case serfs and peasants are common in feudal societies - and may be indentured citizens of another country, so it would be unsurprising considering chinese dominence of that region in the medieval period that they inslaved tibetians. So that doesn't mean that all tibetians were serfs but that their social circumstances may have forced them into becoming so. Hard to find primary evidence on this, but until contrary evidence is provided the article should be left as is.
American South
To quote the article Feudalism: "However, some have taken the feudalism analogy further, seeing it in places as diverse as Ancient Egypt, Parthian empire, India, to the American South of the nineteenth century." I don't think this article really refers to Egypt of the American South, does anyone have information on that?--69.234.177.129 (talk) 15:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)