Talk:Thor (Marvel Comics)

I removed the following from the article because I really don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this issue in general. Bryan 08:30, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

VITAL STATISTICS OF THOR

• Name: Thor, Jake Olson
• Alias: Chad Donald Blake
• Height: 6'6"
• Weight: 640 lbs.
• Hair: blonde
• Eyes: blue
  • Intelligence Level- Normal
  • Strength- Incalculable (Can military press far in excess of 100 tons Exact upper limit is unknown.)
  • Speed- Superhuman, subsonic with use of mystical hammer.
  • Durability- Metahuman
  • Reflexes- Superhuman
  • Agility- Superhuman
  • Stamina- Godlike

Special Abilities: Carries mystical hammer, Mjolnir, which is indestructable. The hammer controls the elements, grants the user the ability to fly, and always returns to the master after being thrown. The hammer is mystically enchanted so that only those of worthy character can wield it. Thor is immune to all terrestrial diseases due to his god-like physical constitution. Thor is a superb hand to hand combatant, even against other Asgardians. He is very cunning and intuitive in battle, but is not the greatest thinker.

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A few things we might want to add to the Marvel section:

• Eric Masterton's period as a substitute for Thor will the real one was banished.
• The subsequent history of Thor with Jake Olsen and the Lord of Asgard stuff (I haven't followed it in recent years though).
• The latest position on "was Donald Blake a real person" - this last I heard he was but was split off from Thor, who ran around the world thinking he was Blake, and later destroyed and replaced by an artificial magical construct which soon collapsed upon itself. Or something like that.

Anyone knowledgable enough to try?

Timrollpickering 19:07, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've added about half the Simonson stuff, skimmed over the LoA stuff, and summarised the recent Ragnarok tale that ended the current book. But, since most of it was plagarised straight fromt The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #13, I've removed the "Superhuman Powers" section. That had to be breaking copyright, since most was word-for-word. --SoM 00:38, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Move "Deviations from Norse mythology"

Would anyone be mad if I move "Deviations from Norse mythology" closer to the bottom of the page? It seems to be presented too early in the reading of the page. Maybe if it was towards the end and each deviation was listed and subbulleted, it would be a better presentation.

Those who are worthy

* In the classical Norse Stories, only Thor and his son Magni can lift Mjolnir. In Marvel, only those worthy can lift it, which is a list of people that includes Captain America, USAgent, Beta Ray Bill, Odin, etc. In the fictional crossover Superman in Avengers/JLA #4 (2003) and Wonder Woman in Marvel_vs_DC Marvel vs. DC #3 (1996) were worthy to lift Mjolnir.

When did the USAgent lift it? He doesn't strike me as worthy. This may be someone confusing him with Steve Roger's identity of "The Captain", which he used when he first wielded Thor's hammer (and which was later copied as USAgent's first costume). Timrollpickering 01:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't believe the U.S. Agent ever used Mjolnir. Captain America during his stint as the "Captain". Also, Superman was not allowed to wield Mjolnir not because he was wothy because Odin thought it was appropriate for the situation at hand. Lastly, the crossovers aren't considered canon so not sure I would add them. Lochdale

I thought crossovers in which the charecters reside in separate universes are considered canon, albeit events that rarely get referenced to again. Timrollpickering 22:20, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Marvel are quite specific when they say that they are not canon. That is, nothing that happens in a crossover affects Marvel continuity. The DCU, however, seem to accept some crossovers (Avengers/JLA) but not others (DC v. Marvel -rejection of the "two brothers" notion). Lochdale