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In its current state, this article does not meet the [[WP:GAC|GA criteria]]. |
In its current state, this article does not meet the [[WP:GAC|GA criteria]]. |
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*'''Prose''': Not so great overall. There are a lot awkward sentences, and the general quality should be improved. |
*'''Prose''': Not so great overall. There are a lot awkward sentences, and the general quality should be improved. |
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**I have asked a copyeditor to look over the article. [[User:Shrewpelt|Shrewpelt]] ([[User talk:Shrewpelt|talk]]) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''References''': This is the worst area. I count 17 references to [http://www.amazon.com Amazon], as well as several to [http://www.barnesandnoble.com Barnes & Noble] and [http://www.powells.com Powell's Books], all of which are not acceptable or appropriate for use as references. This alone is enough for de-listing. One reference in particular, currently number 8, a link to [http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/ http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/], no longer exists, although it is referenced 7 times. |
*'''References''': This is the worst area. I count 17 references to [http://www.amazon.com Amazon], as well as several to [http://www.barnesandnoble.com Barnes & Noble] and [http://www.powells.com Powell's Books], all of which are not acceptable or appropriate for use as references. This alone is enough for de-listing. One reference in particular, currently number 8, a link to [http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/ http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/], no longer exists, although it is referenced 7 times. |
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**Right now, these are for reviews and release dates. The authors themselves have said that Amazon is a realiable source. As for citation 8... The site is a bit annoying. It changed recently, so you have to do a bit of web surfing to get there. And you can't really link it, because (I think) the site is flash. I'll look for some references to cover these citations. [[User:Shrewpelt|Shrewpelt]] ([[User talk:Shrewpelt|talk]]) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Original research''': The "Themes" section either contains [[WP:OR|original research]] or needs more detailed inline citation—right now it's not clear what specific details are referenced, and quotes especially need to be cited as well. |
*'''Original research''': The "Themes" section either contains [[WP:OR|original research]] or needs more detailed inline citation—right now it's not clear what specific details are referenced, and quotes especially need to be cited as well. |
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**Hmm... that would require having the same citation in twice in a row, like this: |
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<blockquote>Another theme shown in the books shows how characters can be a mix of good and evil. Holmes has said she is fascinated by these "shades of gray" in personalities.<ref name="Second Chat"/> Her example of this was when Bluestar, a "lovely" cat, gave up her kits for her ambition. A third major theme, called [[nature versus nurture]], relates to whether a person is born the way he or she will be, or if other things shape that.<ref name="Second Chat"/> This theme ties into the "shades of gray" theme. Other themes that have been pointed out include family, loss, honor, bravery and death, loyalty, and following rules.<ref name="Second Chat"/> |
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:* It just wouldn't look right. [[User:Shrewpelt|Shrewpelt]] ([[User talk:Shrewpelt|talk]]) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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In a more general sense, the article is a bit messy, with a lot of confusing sections and sub-sections that could be cleaned up a bit. In my opinion, this article was very prematurely promoted to GA, and still needs quite a bit of work before it's up to that quality. I'm going to give about a week to try to get this article back up to snuff, and then reassess it to decide if it should be delisted or kept as a GA. [[User:Mr. Absurd|Mr. Absurd]] ([[User talk:Mr. Absurd|talk]]) 06:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
In a more general sense, the article is a bit messy, with a lot of confusing sections and sub-sections that could be cleaned up a bit. In my opinion, this article was very prematurely promoted to GA, and still needs quite a bit of work before it's up to that quality. I'm going to give about a week to try to get this article back up to snuff, and then reassess it to decide if it should be delisted or kept as a GA. [[User:Mr. Absurd|Mr. Absurd]] ([[User talk:Mr. Absurd|talk]]) 06:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:30, 20 August 2008
GA Reassessment
In its current state, this article does not meet the GA criteria.
- Prose: Not so great overall. There are a lot awkward sentences, and the general quality should be improved.
- References: This is the worst area. I count 17 references to Amazon, as well as several to Barnes & Noble and Powell's Books, all of which are not acceptable or appropriate for use as references. This alone is enough for de-listing. One reference in particular, currently number 8, a link to http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/, no longer exists, although it is referenced 7 times.
- Right now, these are for reviews and release dates. The authors themselves have said that Amazon is a realiable source. As for citation 8... The site is a bit annoying. It changed recently, so you have to do a bit of web surfing to get there. And you can't really link it, because (I think) the site is flash. I'll look for some references to cover these citations. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Original research: The "Themes" section either contains original research or needs more detailed inline citation—right now it's not clear what specific details are referenced, and quotes especially need to be cited as well.
- Hmm... that would require having the same citation in twice in a row, like this:
Another theme shown in the books shows how characters can be a mix of good and evil. Holmes has said she is fascinated by these "shades of gray" in personalities.[1] Her example of this was when Bluestar, a "lovely" cat, gave up her kits for her ambition. A third major theme, called nature versus nurture, relates to whether a person is born the way he or she will be, or if other things shape that.[1] This theme ties into the "shades of gray" theme. Other themes that have been pointed out include family, loss, honor, bravery and death, loyalty, and following rules.[1]
In a more general sense, the article is a bit messy, with a lot of confusing sections and sub-sections that could be cleaned up a bit. In my opinion, this article was very prematurely promoted to GA, and still needs quite a bit of work before it's up to that quality. I'm going to give about a week to try to get this article back up to snuff, and then reassess it to decide if it should be delisted or kept as a GA. Mr. Absurd (talk) 06:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)